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To: Lady Heron

There is a point where blind loyalty to Trump gets stupid. Rand is correct, the rinos and dems are in control and Trump can not get the things he promised with them in control.....that is the point. Whether you see it or not, the American people are going to blame republicans and Trump for the rino actions in congress. This is why it is bad to hold your nose and vote for a rino over a dem......THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE and when it counts it destroys the party.


No, Rand is not right. How’s his health care bill coming? Maybe he should spend less time gum flapping on TV and more time trying to get his colleagues on board.

Your blind loyalty to Ted Cruz and the rest of the careerist GOP plantation conservatives has gotten you what exactly? Nothing. They are playing you like a fiddle while they get rich.

Unsurprisingly, you mistake blind loyalty for pragmatic support of our POTUS. Simple fact is the more POTUS is attacked by his base the stronger the GOPe and Dems get. They feel more empowered to seize the beltway agenda. Is that what you really want?


15 posted on 05/03/2017 5:49:08 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

Is this bill what you want? “We have to pass healthcare before tax cuts”????? Really? Since when? Says who? Trump hasn’t a clue what is going on therefore he listens to and trusts Ryan and mcconnell. why do you assume that Rands comments are trashing Trump. He is talking about the bill. Trump loyalty on here is no different than Obama’s loyalty. Trump is a deal maker he will promise you everything but only plans to give you some. We freepers are no different to trump than democrats. Doesn’t mean I don’t like the guy, it’s just the way it is. Trump is not for our agenda, he just wants to do things better. Heck he is for single payer healthcare, his beef with obamacare is that it costs too much and doesn’t cover everyone, not that it government control socialize medicine.


17 posted on 05/03/2017 6:08:37 AM PDT by pghbjugop
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To: lodi90
Actually, I do not have any blind loyalty to Cruz and think he played his cards badly in the end. But he is a heck of a lot better than the rinos when it comes to legislations.

My loyalty is to the constitution. Sorry, but you need to see the bigger picture. The base of this party has never in its history blindly followed a leader like the dems do. If you do not follow through with promises they walk...."read my lips"....a fabulous history lesson of who the republican base actually is. If the base were easily led they would be dems with the constant propaganda we are deluged with daily. Why do you think there are people in the dem power structure that actually think republicans need killing? We are not easily controlled lemmings, we stick out as sore thumbs to them because we bucked the programming. You either understand your base and cater to it or you fall apart.

Yes, since republicans control the House, Senate and the Presidency Trump will get blamed for the rinos betrayal of him with these bills that do not let him keep his campaign promises in a big way. Trump is either going to have to campaign openly against the rinos betraying the party and Trump or he will be tagged with the betrayal.

Riding the Trump high was great.... but there comes a time for reality or drowning and the water is rising fast. If Trump does not succeed then the US is destroyed. It matters that he get it right and that is why your base is complaining and getting mad. You either hear or blindly ignore and call them names, talk down to them or demand they be lemmings, pissing them off even more.

22 posted on 05/03/2017 6:16:36 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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