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Byron York: Why can't House repeal Obamacare? Because a lot of Republicans don't want to
washington examiner ^ | Apr 27, 2017, 9:51 PM | Byron York

Posted on 04/29/2017 11:09:55 AM PDT by Monorprise

"We're going to go when we have the votes," Speaker Paul Ryan said Thursday when asked when the House will pass a bill to repeal and replace Obamacare. Lawmakers will not be constrained by any "artificial deadline," Ryan declared.

On March 24, when the Speaker pulled the GOP Obamacare bill before what would have been a sure defeat, he said, "We're going to be living with Obamacare for the foreseeable future."

But why? Republicans have 238 seats in the House. Repealing Obamacare will require 217 votes. Even with unanimous Democratic opposition, Republicans could lose 21 votes and still prevail on repeal. Why haven't they done it?

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"It's not full repeal. I will be honest, it's not," Rep. Jim Jordan told Fox News on Wednesday. "But it's as good as we think we can get right now."

"We've given up on trying to get this bill repealed, basically," Rep. Louie Gohmert told Fox Business on Tuesday. "But we've been demanding at least let's repeal some of the provisions that we know will bring down rates."

Some Republicans remain optimistic, but in a much longer-term sense. "The process of removing a 2,300-page law with 20,000 pages of rules can't be done in one vote," says the member who estimated that 25 to 30 Republicans don't want to vote for repeal. "The process will take two years."

The Republican-controlled House and Senate both voted to repeal Obamacare in January 2016. In the House, 239 Republicans voted for repeal, while three voted against it and four did not vote. President Obama, of course, vetoed the bill. ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 115th; byronyork; congress; corruption; elections; exemptvsamerica; first100days; gopalwayslies; gopvsamerica; gopvsvoters; obamacare; repealandreplace; rinos; romneyagenda; romneycare; romneycare4ever; romneywilldecide
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Basically we have between 25 and 50 Republicans part of a so called RINO Tuesday group. Most all of theses republicans ironically have Repealing Obamacare on their platform and actually voted for Repeal in 2015.

Yet now they claim they claim if they actualy kept their word and repeated what they did in 2015 their carrers would be over??

This is RINO BS, and they should be called out on it. If Repealing Obamacare were going to end their carrer they would have lost the last 3 elections on which they ran on repeal, and particularly in 2016 after they voted for repeal.

They WILL lose reelection n 2018 if they vote against repeal. So lay down the law and and tell them there WILL be a vote, and that their vote will cost them their job if they break their pledge to their base, and not vote as they voted in 2015.

They will either keep their word or they will lose their job as untrustworthy hypocrites in 2018. No more compromising with this bunch of lying scam artist, they need to come clean with their own districts. If they don't we will make them come clean.

1 posted on 04/29/2017 11:09:55 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

That’s why they will never vote on full repael, so no one can be held accountable. And they will ring on it again in 2018.


2 posted on 04/29/2017 11:13:15 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Monorprise

How to Identify a RINO

If the guy voted for Medicare Part D under Bush but voted against Obamacare under Obozo ... they are probably a RINO.

For longer term reference read Not So Radical Republicans: http://reason.com/archives/1998/07/01/not-so-radical-republicans


3 posted on 04/29/2017 11:14:10 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Monorprise

Americans will blame Pres. Trump and Gorelick who
now control America with Ryan for this.

They promised and SCREWED America as THEY remain EXEMPT.


4 posted on 04/29/2017 11:14:18 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Monorprise
But the Freedom Caucus is the problem, not the namby-pamby Tuesday RINOs.
5 posted on 04/29/2017 11:14:41 AM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: Monorprise
"The process of removing a 2,300-page law with 20,000 pages of rules can't be done in one vote"

Why not? It took one vote to establish it, it can also be removed with one vote ...

6 posted on 04/29/2017 11:16:48 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Monorprise
Every liberal GOPe Republican refusing to vote against Obama Care, because it's "too extreme" or "too far right" or "not fair enough"—should be aggressively targeted by the President and us for replacement.

Hopefully, we can elect a GOP majority in 2018 that will act on the President's agendas! Instead of acting like a bunch of Democrats trying to save Obama Care, open borders and their illegals as future voters.

In the next two elections, Trump and we can remove these obnoxious and dangerous GOPe's from Congress.

7 posted on 04/29/2017 11:17:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ("Fake news is just another name for slander or libel, and should be prosecuted."!!!)
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To: Monorprise

As it has been for decades, so now, the GOP continues to be our biggest political problem and obstacle to restoring our Free Constitutional Republic.


8 posted on 04/29/2017 11:17:52 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Monorprise

The Republicans were given control of congress for the very reason working class Americans do not want to saddled with 0bamascam. Now the Rinos are wimping out.


9 posted on 04/29/2017 11:17:56 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: Wolfie

“That’s why they will never vote on full repael, so no one can be held accountable. And they will ring on it again in 2018.”

Nobody in the Republican base is going to believe them in 2018. They have all the power in their hands and no excuse not to uses it. We know they have the votes because they had the votes in 2015. Just as we know it won’t cost them their jobs because it Didn’t cost them their jobs in 2016 after they did it.

Much less 2010, 2012, and 2014 after they campaigned for it. Theses 25 to 50 RINO’s are liers and they need to be called out on it. Make a public statement to that effect and consult each of the inciviualy with the facts.

Tell them there WILL be a vote because if there isn’t a vote the Rest of the Republican party will collapse. These people can either vote as they campaigned to vote and as they actually did vote in 2015 or they will have to explain to their district why they changed their mind after actually winning the presidency.

Then we the people will throw them out of office as untrustworthy lyers on which no campaign position they take can be trusted, and thus they are worthless as politicians.


10 posted on 04/29/2017 11:18:53 AM PDT by Monorprise
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...says the member who estimated that 25 to 30 Republicans don't want to vote for repeal.

Names. Or it's BS.

11 posted on 04/29/2017 11:20:44 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Monorprise
"We're going to go when we have the votes," Speaker Paul Ryan said Thursday when asked.......


12 posted on 04/29/2017 11:22:19 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Diogenesis

Baloney. No one will blame Trump.
Very clear from polls already.


13 posted on 04/29/2017 11:22:59 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Monorprise

Nobody really expected Congress to repeal Obamacare did they? I never did and still don’t


14 posted on 04/29/2017 11:27:55 AM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: LS
It is still called Obamacare and the law has not changed. Democrats still own it and we must not let the MSM try to spin it.
15 posted on 04/29/2017 11:27:57 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Monorprise

I wish Pres. Trump would tell Congress in 24 point font:
“If you send me the bill Obama vetoed in 2016, I will sign it”.


16 posted on 04/29/2017 11:30:24 AM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: Billthedrill

That is the point, Paul Ryan and the republican leadership are going to bat to protect a buch of lying scam artist instead of calling them out.

These RINO’s are already on the hook for their vote in 2015 and their campaign promises in 2010, 2012, 2014, and 2016.

Nobody is going to bleive they are worth anything if they break their word now after actually winning the presidency.

If Ryan doesn’t do this then the whole republican party will be thought of as the same kind of scam artist, and they will ALL lose for being worthless as politicians.

Ryan doesnt have a choice he has to put theses people on the spot to save the party and avoid all of them being lable as theses scammers are.

Let them cut their own political throats if they want you can’t let them cut the throat of the Republican party in trying to cover for their lies.


17 posted on 04/29/2017 11:31:53 AM PDT by Monorprise
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So all those other times you voted for outright repeal was a grandstanding joke?

The bill was passed was in one vote. It can be repealed the same way it got here.

Welfare reform had been a decades old program and yet it was reorganized in one friggin vote.

You guys really are a pathetic joke and I don’t see how we can justify your salary and all the other perks of your employment if you will not do the job you were hired to do.

The job you told us you could and would do , as well what you would accomplish.

You really are lying gas bags and hopeless grifters of the tax payer monies.

You told us you didn’t have enough votes and if we would only give you a majority, you would repeal.

You told us you didn’t have enough in the senate and if we would only give you a majority, you would repeal.

You told us you only controlled one branch of the givernment and if we would only give you the White House, you would repeal.

Well, your welcome.

Now DO YOUR DAMNED JOB as YOU PROMISED!!!!


18 posted on 04/29/2017 11:32:49 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: stylin19a

“I wish Pres. Trump would tell Congress in 24 point font:
“If you send me the bill Obama vetoed in 2016, I will sign it”.”

I think trump will sign it ether way, and even if Trump didn’t sign it Congress is more than willing to given into any of Trump’s compromising points.

Our problem is 25-50 Rino’s in the house and probably a few in the senate. The Solution is clearly calling them out and forcing them to do what they have already done in 2015. There is now way theses people can escape responsibility.

They are ether lying now and thus are untrustworthy political scam artist, or they were lying then.

Their career is over if they vote against it repeal of Obamacare now because no democrat is ever going to support them ether way because of what they did then and no republican is going to support them because of what they do now.


19 posted on 04/29/2017 11:37:24 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

FWIW.

There is NO need to repeal 0bamacare.

Just go around it.

Allow insurance companies to sell policies to individuals based on what those individuals want or think they may need. If the policy doesn’t cover broken bones then the policy holder will be out of pocket, and so be it.

This is actually very simple.

If some people want to be covered by 0bamacare and those exchanges then they can. But for those that don’t need or want to pay for, a hysterectomy because the are a man then allow them to buy a policy that suits them.

Free our health insurances companies from mandatory coverage and allow individuals to buy what is in their best interest.

Congress can literally create a private insurance market that will compete with 0bamacare.

Any thoughts on who would win?


20 posted on 04/29/2017 11:45:03 AM PDT by Zeneta
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