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To: Helicondelta

Funding is a problem? I thought Trump told us Mexico was paying for the wall. If so, the bulldozers should already be at work.

The Democrats are against a wall. Moderate Republicans, including the leadership don’t want the wall. The federal bureaucracy doesn’t want a wall. At least 1/3 of the federal judges who will be hearing the thousands of anti-wall cases are against the wall and will rule against it no matter what the Constitution and federal law says. Politically, even the people of border states Texas and Arizona are split on the wall plus California and New Mexico are anti wall.

The wall doesn’t address people entering the country on visas and overstaying. It also doesn’t address the millions of refugees who will not assimilate and are being brought into the country by the federal government and the allied government funded non-profits. Unless these two sources of inflow are stopped, whatever amount of wall is built will only be a monument to the cultural and economic decline of the nation.

If the wall is not funded by Congress in the current year, it will never be funded. Ryan, McConnell, and the moderates who dominate the GOP will not the wall to be a major issue in a mid-term election year. If the wall isn’t funded in 2017, and the GOP loses either house of Congress in the 2018 elections, the wall will not be funded in Trump’s presidency or ever. Demographic trends are not in favor of the wall. By 2020 there will not be enough support for the wall in the electorate and if Trump doesn’t run for, and win, reelection
there will be no leadership support for the wall in the GOP.


39 posted on 04/22/2017 5:48:01 AM PDT by Soul of the South
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To: Soul of the South

I predict no wall would mean the end of the GOP.


40 posted on 04/22/2017 5:51:33 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Soul of the South
The wall doesn’t address people entering the country on visas and overstaying. It also doesn’t address the millions of refugees who will not assimilate and are being brought into the country by the federal government and the allied government funded non-profits. Unless these two sources of inflow are stopped, whatever amount of wall is built will only be a monument to the cultural and economic decline of the nation.

We usually agree but you are out lunch on this one. The wall isn't supposed address visa overstays directly. The wall is a force multiplier and will lesson the necessary manpower to keep the "foot" traffic to a minimum, that way more manpower can be used to fight the visa overstay illegals. It all works together as one system. ask the Israelis if they like their wall.

41 posted on 04/22/2017 5:57:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Soul of the South

Well, you seem to be against the wall and your argument against it is not very strong.

If visa overstays and refugees were the major source of illegal immigrants we wouldn’t see the largest concentration of illegals in the border states.

The wall wasn’t Trump’s idea. Most republicans have been running on that platform for a long time. It was a part of Mitt Romney’s plan in 2012 and most republican members of congress are in favor of it. This is not going away. Construction will begin this year and someday it will be finished.

The only people against it frankly are the ones near the border states who benefit from cheap labor and drug trafficking. The opposition from democrats is weak and they will cave fast. The unions are all in favor of it.

Walls are not a symbol of decline. Just the opposite. The Romans and the Chinese built walls at the height of their civilizations.


49 posted on 04/22/2017 7:25:33 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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