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Do Close Special Elections Mean Republicans Are in Trouble?
National Review ^ | 04/21/2017 | Michael Barone

Posted on 04/21/2017 7:31:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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One should not assume that losers’ tacit support translates to support by any means. What it means is that ‘protected existences’ by so-called conservative elites are threatened.

‘Objectively looking at’ doesn’t translate to support and a willingness to let this President succeeds. It smacks of smarmy dogma. And we denigrate ourselves and our positions to pretend like venues such as National Review have any genuine intentions and good will for us all to make things better. I know better.


41 posted on 04/21/2017 8:25:26 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

RE: ‘Objectively looking at’ doesn’t translate to support and a willingness to let this President succeeds

It does not necessarily translate to the opposite either.

You have to look at the individual and the issue on a case by case basis.

The best example is ME. I want Trump to succeed as President but I do not canonize him as someone who can do no wrong.

I want him to succeed with one proviso — THE DOES WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT.


42 posted on 04/21/2017 8:27:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

We differ, but it’s no reason for me to get pissed at you. I just think so much of this FR-posted stuff is geared more to a ‘never-Trump’ taint than anything else and I’m just not going to entertain that, not now. I have hopes and dreams just like anyone else but I can still recognize underlying discontent about Trump when I see it - that nagging “Ima help you understand BS” when it is all just a disguised ploy to implement the same old, same old agenda BS we’ve been hearing from these fools for 30-40 years.

We had one brief time in W’s reign where he had the whole ball of wax, the Trifecta. HE and Congress just plain effing blew it. They all still rich, ain’t they?

We have one more short trifecta period, hopefully longer, but every one of these ‘concern ninnies’ are doing their damn level best to EFF that up AGAIN. Just damn.

The thought about sticking with the Americans that elected Trump doesn’t seem to cross their pea-brain minds. I’m sick of reading this sh!t from these electronic do-rags.


43 posted on 04/21/2017 8:36:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I believe she will win.


44 posted on 04/21/2017 8:36:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh please - the Democrats won’t be spending $8.3 million in a general election with that kind of GOTV effort for every candidate and they won’t be running up against no-name republicans - they’ll be up against Incumbents.


45 posted on 04/21/2017 8:39:07 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d suggest, with all the media attention, money thrown at them and the sheer screeching irrationality of Democrats that these two special elections actually demonstrate the strength of the Trump wave. They threw everything including the kitchen sink at them and still lost.


46 posted on 04/21/2017 8:39:42 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SeekAndFind

No. I have a piece coming out in “BigLeaguePolitics.com” today or tomorrow: “Democrat Stalingrads”


47 posted on 04/21/2017 8:40:27 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: SeekAndFind

To all the Dem losers, Close but no Cookie:-)


48 posted on 04/21/2017 8:42:20 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: Harpotoo

“Close but no cigar” is the classic response to a Democrat loss in a tight race since the Clinton era.


49 posted on 04/21/2017 8:43:21 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: MayflowerMadam

I say the problem will be Ryan’s!


50 posted on 04/21/2017 8:43:32 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: SeekAndFind

Ask the Cleveland Indians how awesome their almost World Series title is or Guido Kratschmer how cool 2nd place is?


51 posted on 04/21/2017 8:48:39 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (HTTP 500 - Internal Server Error)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder % of eligible voters bothered to vote in this election? I tried to do a search for this but my search skills must suck.

FReegards


52 posted on 04/21/2017 8:56:04 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: SeekAndFind

Georgia 6 suggests that the highly educated among them are heavily motivated to get out and vote Democratic.

It has nothing to do with “Voting Democrat. It has to do with the Never Trump inmpact on GOP-E strongholds. Look at the 6th district vote totals in Nov 2016 for GOP-E Senator Johnny Issacson vrs the vote totals for Trump.

What you are seeing is the “Never Trump” effect. GOP voters in this district showed up Nov 16 and voted for GOP candidate overwhelmingly, but did not vote for Trump. Saw the same pattern in similar districts in FLA, NC and other states in Nov 2016. The GOP Senate candidate did better in those districts then Trump did across the board.

Comparing how a district voted in a Presidential race to forecast how it will vote in a special election are is a ridiculous exercise in apples to oranges comparisons. How a district votes for state wide offices is a much better indicator of the relative strengths both paryts have there.

This is a pretty standard result in GA. Democrat “star” candidate does well against a fragmented GOP field then loses the run off when forced to run 1 vrs 1 against the GOP.


53 posted on 04/21/2017 9:16:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Theodore R.

Nope. You could not be more wrong. GA 6 will elect Handle because it is a good little GOP-E district.


54 posted on 04/21/2017 9:19:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: SeekAndFind

It means that the Ryan lead House is failing.


55 posted on 04/21/2017 9:19:47 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: SeekAndFind

It means illegals are scared to vote, cheaters are afraid to vote twice. There aren’t enough Democrats to put them over the top.


56 posted on 04/21/2017 9:21:45 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: SeekAndFind
Are most people so easily swayed by money poured into political ads that they don’t bother to check the truth for themselves?

yes because that $8 million allowed Ossoff to run almost non stop ads on TV and radio down here where he relentless postured as if he were a Moderate Republican rather then a far left radical Dem. He did his best to lie his way into office by pretending to be everything he is not and none of the the things he actually is. Dems know they cannot win on issues or facts so their new campaign strategy is to run as "GOP Lite" in these GOP-E districts.

57 posted on 04/21/2017 9:24:37 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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No wonder he breezed to re-election in a district the fundamentals of which aren’t particularly favorable for Republicans.

Which indicates a complete ignorance of the district. It is a deep red GOP-E distinct. I use to live there. It is one of the most GOP-E areans in the coutnry. It is not pink, it not purple, it is DEEP red. The mistake the national pundits are making is trying to compare a Presidential vote total to a Congressional District race. That is a ridiculous apples to oranges comparison. LOOK at how the district votes in state wide races. What we saw in Nov 2016 was reflected in several other states. GOP Senators did MUCH better then Trump in deep red GOP-E areas. Why? Because the #Never Trump movement did persuade a lot of traditional GOPE voters to not vote for Trump.

58 posted on 04/21/2017 9:29:53 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did Scott Brown winning the Ted Kennedy seat mean anything? Clearly not, if you ask Liz Warren.


59 posted on 04/21/2017 9:37:06 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: MNJohnnie

>”complete ignorance”

The word “complete” is thrown in just to be insulting. Unless you’re purpose is to entertain yourself, you should try to be more diplomatic.

Now, I wonder where you get your figures from. Results in Governor elections are usually not broken out by congressional district. At least, I didn’t find such a thing when I looked up the voting tendencies of it. So, would you please share the source of your data?


60 posted on 04/21/2017 9:49:07 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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