Posted on 04/16/2017 2:46:23 PM PDT by BeauBo
Recep Tayyip Erdogan didnt just win his constitutional referendum he permanently closed a chapter of his countrys modern history... Whether they understood it or not, when Turks voted Yes, they were registering their opposition to the Teşkilât-ı Esasîye Kanunu and the version of modernity that Ataturk imagined and represented. Though the opposition is still disputing the final vote tallies, the Turkish public seems to have given Erdogan and the AKP license to reorganize the Turkish state and in the process raze the values on which it was built.
(Excerpt) Read more at foreignpolicy.com ...
Turkeys mainly Kurdish southeast and its three main cities, including the capital Ankara and the largest city Istanbul, looked set to vote No after a bitter and divisive campaign. -Reuters
Translation: Kurds and literate Turks voted no.
Ein Reich. Ein Volk. Ein Fuhrer.
[ RIP Turkey, 1921 2017 ]
Oh, hang on. Ezekiel 38 still has to happen. How Turkey will be formed on that day, well, that remains to be seen.
Ottoman Empire 2017-?
“another tinpot dictator like Russia”
So the people voted for it but he is somehow a dictator..
This article is pure globalist trash.
Seems to me that the people of Turkey won and the EU lost.
PING.
>>>>If you keep up with (what) the politicians in Europe have been doing rather than just the headlines, they've already decided to replace their bases in Turkey with bases in other Western European countries. I seriously doubt Turkey stays in NATO much longer unless the military takes over again like they have a number of times in the past.
>>>>That upsets all the reasons the Saudis have for trying to turn Syria into multiple States since without Turkey being a NATO member there's no way they'll trust the Turks to not extort ever higher fees from them in return for allowing gas to flow to Europe.
>>>>They understand the underhanded games the Ukrainians played with the pipeline from Russia through Ukraine to the EU and they're not going to set themselves up for that sort of blackmail.<<<<
Turkey: 100 years of political, economic and religious freedom vs. 1,000 years of barbarity. The return of the dark ages.
Kinda puts history in perspective...
Thank you, I find all this stuff very revealing as to the times we are living in. They forget they are just Man and God will have the final say, His way and His timing
Wow. Sobering article.
I wonder how the Young Turks will respond to this....
WARNING LANGUAGE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsVONO75utI&t=189s
Likely? The done button popped up.
“Now, another tinpot dictator like Russia and North Korea.”
The difference is he is a Muslim. With the other two their is hope for a better future when they die. I am not sure that is the case with a Muslim.
Somewhat like Stalin versus Hitler. Communists were able to remain in power after the leader dies. Not sure that would have worked out in Nazi Germany. I am afraid this will be a Muslim dictator for a long time.
Turkey turns from the West.
To where? Fascist Russia? Death to America Iran? China?
Most likely a supplicant Europe (Germany) will continue to patronize Erdoganist Turkey. Those folks have never met an authoritarian islamic regime they couldn’t do business with.
Wonder how Putin will react; having a jihadist Turkey is bad for Europe, but it’s just as bad for Russia. An Ottoman-Persian axis is bad for both the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea.
Not really. Putin and Erdogan have far more in common than not. They are authoritarian birds of a feather and if Turkey is to tilt away from western europe then fascist Russia is most likely partner for it.
Karl Marx said he liked Democracy because it is only one step away from Totalitarianism.
Always.
It should also signal the end of Turkey’s membership in NATO.
No more so than the U.S. serfs in 2008 & 2012...
Turkey turns from the West.
To where?
To islam, that’s where. That is what Erdgoan’s AKP Party has always been about. The worldwide leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood now lives in Turkey, invited by the Government.
Erdogan promotes the more radical Saudi stlye of islam (Hanbali Fiqh) instead of the old Ottoman style (Hanafi Fiqh), or the more characteristically Turkish Sufi style.
Two things stand out from this to me. One is that Turkey is the gateway between the middle east and Europe. This gives it much power.
The other is the people of Turkey remember their history whereas we aren’t even taught it in school like it should be. Perhaps the Turks see the slow degradation of homosexuality, gender confusion, and transgenderism as something they don’t want to tolerate in their country so they are given two impossible choices. Turn toward a dictatorship and the old ways and away from Westernizing or embrace/allow the disease of leftism into their national collective.
Neither is a good choice. At least this way they retain their identity and can at a later time loosen the tight grip of Islam again. There doesn’t seem to be any way of coming back from the degenerate leftist transition so far. Brexit and voting in President Trump have been the two closest things to date.
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