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RIP Turkey, 1921 – 2017
Foreign Policy ^ | 16 April 2017 | STEVEN A. COOK

Posted on 04/16/2017 2:46:23 PM PDT by BeauBo

Recep Tayyip Erdogan didn’t just win his constitutional referendum — he permanently closed a chapter of his country’s modern history... Whether they understood it or not, when Turks voted “Yes”, they were registering their opposition to the Teşkilât-ı Esasîye Kanunu and the version of modernity that Ataturk imagined and represented. Though the opposition is still disputing the final vote tallies, the Turkish public seems to have given Erdogan and the AKP license to reorganize the Turkish state and in the process raze the values on which it was built.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; caliphate; dictator; erdogan; muslimworld; nato; turkey; turkeyelection
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To: BeauBo

“Turkey’s mainly Kurdish southeast and its three main cities, including the capital Ankara and the largest city Istanbul, looked set to vote “No” after a bitter and divisive campaign.” -Reuters

Translation: Kurds and literate Turks voted no.


21 posted on 04/16/2017 3:11:20 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Pearls Before Swine
“One man, one vote, one time.”

Ein Reich. Ein Volk. Ein Fuhrer.

22 posted on 04/16/2017 3:12:38 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal; StoneWall Brigade; Lera; 444Flyer

[ RIP Turkey, 1921 – 2017 ]

Oh, hang on. Ezekiel 38 still has to happen. How Turkey will be formed on that day, well, that remains to be seen.


23 posted on 04/16/2017 3:15:46 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: BeauBo

Ottoman Empire 2017-?


24 posted on 04/16/2017 3:16:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

“another tinpot dictator like Russia”

So the people voted for it but he is somehow a dictator..

This article is pure globalist trash.

Seems to me that the people of Turkey won and the EU lost.


25 posted on 04/16/2017 3:28:19 PM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Rashputin; null and void; KC_Lion; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; TWhiteBear; WildHighlander57; ...
................................

PING.

>>>>If you keep up with (what) the politicians in Europe have been doing rather than just the headlines, they've already decided to replace their bases in Turkey with bases in other Western European countries. I seriously doubt Turkey stays in NATO much longer unless the military takes over again like they have a number of times in the past.

>>>>That upsets all the reasons the Saudis have for trying to turn Syria into multiple States since without Turkey being a NATO member there's no way they'll trust the Turks to not extort ever higher fees from them in return for allowing gas to flow to Europe.

>>>>They understand the underhanded games the Ukrainians played with the pipeline from Russia through Ukraine to the EU and they're not going to set themselves up for that sort of blackmail.<<<<

26 posted on 04/16/2017 3:30:13 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Helicondelta

Turkey: 100 years of political, economic and religious freedom vs. 1,000 years of barbarity. The return of the dark ages.


27 posted on 04/16/2017 3:34:45 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: BeauBo
Was pondering a few weeks ago: the modern state of Turkey is but two administrations removed from the Roman Empire.

Kinda puts history in perspective...

28 posted on 04/16/2017 3:41:48 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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To: LucyT

Thank you, I find all this stuff very revealing as to the times we are living in. They forget they are just Man and God will have the final say, His way and His timing


29 posted on 04/16/2017 3:43:07 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: BeauBo

Wow. Sobering article.


30 posted on 04/16/2017 3:51:50 PM PDT by agrace
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To: BeauBo; StevenCrowder

I wonder how the Young Turks will respond to this....

WARNING LANGUAGE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsVONO75utI&t=189s


31 posted on 04/16/2017 3:52:41 PM PDT by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, that it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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To: BeauBo

Likely? The done button popped up.


32 posted on 04/16/2017 4:06:12 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: BeadCounter

“Now, another tinpot dictator like Russia and North Korea.”

The difference is he is a Muslim. With the other two their is hope for a better future when they die. I am not sure that is the case with a Muslim.

Somewhat like Stalin versus Hitler. Communists were able to remain in power after the leader dies. Not sure that would have worked out in Nazi Germany. I am afraid this will be a Muslim dictator for a long time.


33 posted on 04/16/2017 4:10:51 PM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: BeauBo

Turkey turns from the West.


To where? Fascist Russia? Death to America Iran? China?

Most likely a supplicant Europe (Germany) will continue to patronize Erdoganist Turkey. Those folks have never met an authoritarian islamic regime they couldn’t do business with.


34 posted on 04/16/2017 4:14:18 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: chajin

Wonder how Putin will react; having a jihadist Turkey is bad for Europe, but it’s just as bad for Russia. An Ottoman-Persian axis is bad for both the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea.


Not really. Putin and Erdogan have far more in common than not. They are authoritarian birds of a feather and if Turkey is to tilt away from western europe then fascist Russia is most likely partner for it.


35 posted on 04/16/2017 4:15:44 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: JimSEA

Karl Marx said he liked Democracy because it is only one step away from Totalitarianism.

Always.


36 posted on 04/16/2017 4:42:48 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Stay safe out there. The< Haters (TM) are dangerous. Very dangerous.)
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To: BeauBo

It should also signal the end of Turkey’s membership in NATO.


37 posted on 04/16/2017 4:46:26 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Chauncey Gardiner
"A nation of fools"

No more so than the U.S. serfs in 2008 & 2012...

38 posted on 04/16/2017 4:47:17 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: lodi90

Turkey turns from the West.

To where?

To islam, that’s where. That is what Erdgoan’s AKP Party has always been about. The worldwide leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood now lives in Turkey, invited by the Government.

Erdogan promotes the more radical Saudi stlye of islam (Hanbali Fiqh) instead of the old Ottoman style (Hanafi Fiqh), or the more characteristically Turkish Sufi style.


39 posted on 04/16/2017 4:50:53 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Two things stand out from this to me. One is that Turkey is the gateway between the middle east and Europe. This gives it much power.

The other is the people of Turkey remember their history whereas we aren’t even taught it in school like it should be. Perhaps the Turks see the slow degradation of homosexuality, gender confusion, and transgenderism as something they don’t want to tolerate in their country so they are given two impossible choices. Turn toward a dictatorship and the old ways and away from Westernizing or embrace/allow the disease of leftism into their national collective.

Neither is a good choice. At least this way they retain their identity and can at a later time loosen the tight grip of Islam again. There doesn’t seem to be any way of coming back from the degenerate leftist transition so far. Brexit and voting in President Trump have been the two closest things to date.


40 posted on 04/16/2017 4:53:32 PM PDT by Boomer (The MSM and Radicalized Dem Party are One and the SAME!)
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