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To: rx
The shielding that would have been required to protect three astronauts from the Van Allen Belt radiation was estimated to require an inch thick of lead (or the equivalent) all around. There is no way even the Saturn V rockets could have handled that extra weight to achieve orbital-, let alone escape -velocity to the moon.

Since essentially the same vehicle was used for all the Apollo program launches, if Apollo 11 could not have done it--and they amply proved through imagery trickery that they couldn't even plausibly fake having done it--none of the Apollo missions went to the moon.

Lots of crazy government hacks are out there (and here, too) spewing nonsense and wild theories just to allow the unwashed masses to pejorize others, but that's just disinformation. Many honest seekers of the truth are people with very knowledgeable backgrounds. I believe FR has a reasonably good percentage that fit into that category (or I'd not be here).

“Finding the occasional straw of truth awash in a great ocean of confusion and bamboozle requires intelligence, vigilance, dedication and courage. But if we don't practice these tough habits of thought, we cannot hope to solve the truly serious problems that face us - and we risk becoming a nation of suckers, up for grabs by the next charlatan who comes along.”-- Carl Sagan

If we're not up to this difficult task (Sagan's challenge), some group could do something really awful, like set off nukes in the American homeland, while blaming undocumented Guatemalans or some such (false flag). Then the unthinking (remaining) masses would overwhelmingly welcome a New World Order after millions died off in the total economic stagnation, eh?

34 posted on 04/15/2017 1:13:40 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx
The shielding that would have been required to protect three astronauts from the Van Allen Belt radiation was estimated to require an inch thick of lead

Only if you sit in the Van Allen Belt for an extended period of time; radiation doses are cumulative over a period of time. Apollo flew through them at 29k mph.

As far as the "workmanship" on the LEM, would it be safe to say you've never been involved in an engineering project? I have. I helped to build some of the first digital cellphones back in the 1980's and early 90's. The first prototype model didn't fit in your pocket, and it didn't fit (very well) in a car trunk, either. It was the size of a dorm room refrigerator.

The LEM, and most other Apollo hardware, was also basically an engineering prototype that went into production, not a finished piece of consumer hardware that was produced by the millions.

The LEM team's task was to build something that met Apollo's strict weight requirements and could land on the moon, not something that would look pretty sitting on shelf and sell millions of units.

45 posted on 04/15/2017 5:51:48 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: rx

Great Sagan quote! Thanks.


49 posted on 04/15/2017 6:35:24 AM PDT by Bogie
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To: rx

Fascinating. I wonder what else you believe. Do you believe the Earth is flat? Do you believe in the existence of germs?


100 posted on 04/16/2017 5:35:43 PM PDT by dinodino
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