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United passenger dragged off flight identified as doctor with criminal past
Syracuse.com ^ | April 11 2017

Posted on 04/11/2017 12:46:11 PM PDT by confederatecarpetbag

The United Airlines passenger dragged off a flight was a doctor who said he was trying to get home to his patients.

The Louisville Courier-Journal says Dr. David Dao is a Vietnamese-American immigrant who specializes in pulmonary disease in Elizabethtown, Kentucky. On Sunday, he was one of four United Express Flight 3411 passengers "randomly selected" to be removed from an overbooked plane in Chicago bound for Louisville, 40 miles outside of Elizabethtown.

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KEYWORDS: daviddao; ual; unitedairlines
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To: mulligan

>> Hard to believe so many think the airline was at fault.

Yup. Way too many idiots expressing feel-good indignation.


21 posted on 04/11/2017 1:35:57 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: confederatecarpetbag

Little surprised at all the whining on FR....this moron is the only one to blame for this whole soap opera. He should have had the sense and the class to get up and leave quietly. People are bumped all the time. Put on your big boy pants, grow up, and suck it up.


22 posted on 04/11/2017 1:37:33 PM PDT by klb99 (I now understand why the South seceeded)
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To: blueunicorn6

Because even the captain has no power over physics. You can’t have four passengers stand for the length of the flight.


23 posted on 04/11/2017 1:38:08 PM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: LouieFisk

Thatt is what I read, too.


24 posted on 04/11/2017 1:39:28 PM PDT by MamaB (Heb : 13:2)
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To: confederatecarpetbag

This isn’t to justify the airlines,

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If the airlines followed the correct procedure in selecting those to be removed
and other action had to be taken to get them off then I don’t necessarily see
the airlines as at fault. Now the removal process by the Police may have some
explaining to do at some point in the followup that sure to come.


25 posted on 04/11/2017 1:40:16 PM PDT by deport
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To: mulligan
A United Airline pilot of the same aircraft type called in to Rush, told Rush FAA, HS and airline rules have zero tolerance for belligerent passengers. Passenger was approached a half dozen times civilly, then snuck back on after being escorted off the first time.
26 posted on 04/11/2017 1:46:13 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Onambla: Marxist-Muslim crack-smoking closet queen Exp 1-20-17)
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To: PJBankard

Airlines don’t need to be justified. The only issue that occurred was the amount of force needed to remove the passenger from the airplane by a police officer.


Its a simple rule of thumb

Police force required will be greater then your resistance offered...( AKA you’re not going to win when you fight with the cops)


27 posted on 04/11/2017 1:47:58 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: confederatecarpetbag

Regardless of whether or not United should have asked him to deplane, once he demonstrated that he would refuse to comply with crew member instructions, the captain wouldn’t have much of a choice but to have him taken off the airplane prior to departure.

If you are not willing to comply with crew member instructions, you shouldn’t be flying.


28 posted on 04/11/2017 1:53:37 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: LouieFisk
It was airport rent-a-cops from what I understand, by the way.

And if such a person grabbed me like that, he'd have two hyper-extended and likely broken elbows for his trouble.

29 posted on 04/11/2017 1:54:22 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Good judgement comes from experience. And experience? Well, that comes from poor judgement.)
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To: LouieFisk
I heard it was a random computer selection

LOL No way.

Not random at all. There were no platinum or gold frequent fliers selected.

30 posted on 04/11/2017 1:57:36 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: pabianice

“You can’t have four passengers stand for the length of the flight.”

Why not? I’ve stood nearly that long in the security check line.


31 posted on 04/11/2017 1:59:12 PM PDT by beelzepug (Anybody I attack may rest assured it's personal!)
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To: confederatecarpetbag

Has no bearing on what happened. He was randomly selected. UA very likely violated their own policies stated in their contract for carriage. This attempt to malign the passenger is bogus.


32 posted on 04/11/2017 2:00:12 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: PJBankard

Not the same thing. There are specific terms of service that the airline is obligated to follow, as is the passenger.


33 posted on 04/11/2017 2:02:17 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I’ve never been bumped (knock on wood) but I’m a frequent flier with seniority.

Once, a few years ago, I was seated and a large woman loudly demanded I get out of *her* seat. We both had been assigned the same seat. That happened once in a while back then. The flight attendant came over, looked at both of our tickets, looked at me and said, “No problem, come with me.” I got a nice first class seat.


34 posted on 04/11/2017 2:02:39 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Thumper1960

Not even United employees but ones from Republic Airlines.


35 posted on 04/11/2017 2:03:35 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: confederatecarpetbag

Happy I am flying Delta today. BOYCOTT UNITED. And dragging the doctor out in public now is unnecessary. Respect his privacy. UNited is sole villain here. And also Congress for setting caps on compensation. Or is this refs that Trump can rescind?


36 posted on 04/11/2017 2:05:08 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: LouieFisk

What I was speaking of is he refused to leave according to a passenger on FOX last night. They apparently approached him I believe three times and he would not leave. If they had a legal right to remove him,no problem he was resisting.


37 posted on 04/11/2017 2:08:32 PM PDT by Herman Ball
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To: klb99

THat is not how it works. There are specific policies regarding passengers being refused boarding in the event of oversold flights. There are specific policies regarding when a passenger can be removed involuntarily from the plane for reasons beside oversold flights. The flight was not oversold. The passenger had already boarded. There was no act by the passenger prior to the random selection to justify his removal. There is not even a policy that allows from random selection. That man was under no obligation to surrender his seat and UA had no right to demand so.

UA was in the wrong. They should have found alternate travel arrangements for the four Republic crew members.


38 posted on 04/11/2017 2:09:25 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Farmer Dean

He and 3 others were asked to leave the plane and were offered a lot of money with overnight lodging to do so. #4 refused; the other 3 left peacefully. Suppose you were on that flight and they announced that passenger #4 had to leave, someone else had to volunteer, or the flight wouldn’t budge away from the gate. If asshole #4 didn’t budge, no one else got home. United’s only mistake was not waiting for that jerk - or someone else - to get off the plane.


39 posted on 04/11/2017 2:11:22 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Herman Ball; All

No problem? Well, the police should and hopefully will be fired, the United CEO will be gone by the end of the month or sooner, and maybe Congress or Trump will remove caps on airlines to empower passengers. United stock dropped billions today over this,that hurts them. Boycott them, like Target and let them think twice about assaulting a passenger in the future. I fly almost weekly, luckily not United, and have zero tolerance for airline idiocy like this. Bet anyone defending them does not fly regularly or at all.


40 posted on 04/11/2017 2:12:19 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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