Posted on 04/11/2017 7:53:38 AM PDT by doug from upland
https://twitter.com/thenormalbloke/status/851801248080814080
Two things....
Firstly, not all Muslims follow Mohammad’s example or obey his teachings in accordance with the rule of abrogation which he instituted ... and that’s a good thing.
Secondly, you maybe should also be aware that when a Muslim condemns terrorism they may be doing so according to Sharia Law which, as a matter of the public declaration of the OIC that represents all Muslim countries at the head of state level and whose declarations are therefore considered to have authority over the Ummah (the body of all Muslim believers), is how terrorism may be lawfully defined by Muslims.
And Sharia Law makes waging jihad out in such a way that Jihadis are NOT considered to be terrorist EVER.
Under Sharia Law a terrorist is basically someone who harms a Muslim without right, just as an oppressor is someone who resist Islam or any civil authority not under Sharia Law that presumes jurisdiction over Muslims.
So your friends may be backslidden and not on the official page, many Muslims are such, but they may not be as well...
... and if they are on the official page, however slightly, then they will know that they are allowed to deceive you by using words you think mean one thing but to them does not mean that. Moreover, such deception may at times be considered mandatory if the cause behind it is mandatory (and advancing Sharia Law is mandatory).
You started with the attacks and name calling, then you say I’m intellectually deficient for calling you out as a troll?
That’s rich.
“The Bible calls him Lord Jesus, but says that he is the son of God and the Messiah, not God himself.”
Well, actually, it does equate God and Jesus in a few places. For example, Revelation 1:8 says “I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God...the Almighty.” Later on, near the end of the book, in Rev 22:12,13, and 16, it then says “Behold, I am coming soon. ...I am the Alpha and the Omega....I, Jesus...”. There are more, similar verses if interested.
It’s still Peking to me.
First of all, they are different from me in that they do not
believe that Yeshua HaMaschiach, Jesus Christ the Lord is
the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No human being comes to
the Father any other way but by Him.
He died on the cross, bearing our sins in His own body on
the tree. He is the sinless lamb of God who takes away the
sins of the world.
We do not kill and destroy in order to force anyone to
become a Christian, although the Muslim hordes were
stopped at the Gates of Vienna, after they had cut a wide
swath in their rampage (Jihad), killing thousands upon
thousands of “infidels”.
Mohammed was a pedophile, no matter how good you might
think little “Aisha” had it in life. He “consummated”
their “marriage” when she was nine years old, in between
his murderous rampages waging “Jihad”.
I think Islam is the “pale horse” of Revelation. “Chloros”
was always translated as “Green”, except for the one place
in Revelation - because the translators figured that
“Green Horse” was impossible. Well, the color of Islam
is GREEN.
Wow. You really do just pull unsubstantiated random internet musings and treat them as if they have some sort of integrity. When you’re ready to debate using more than undeserved righteousness, strawmen, and BS numerology/color-coding, I’ll be waiting.
BS.
Two letters more than you should have bothered to post. Still waiting for when you’re actually ready to debate.
>> A few occasional incidents
Completely irrelevant. Christ along with NT do not advance such violence. Islam does.
Islam is a war plan regardless of the many Muslims that pretend it’s not.
Yes let's get back to that. I asked you to show where Jesus' teachings were anything like those of the Koran. Did you find those verses yet?
#27 was the proper response to him.
You nailed it.
Approximately a hundred words more than you should have
bothered to post.
You de-bait, I debate - and ne’er the twain shall meet.
While I know you’ll move the goalposts immediately if not sooner with the “in this particular debate I will only consider words attributed directly to Jesus” BS, here are just a couple of examples of your god advocating for the same things you are acting so superior to:
Genocide: Deuteronomy 20:16-18
Rape/pedophilia: Numbers 31:17-18
Murder: Ezekiel 9:5
Slavery: Leviticus 25:44-46
The Bible supports and condones as much or more violence as any holy book. There are many more examples available, but maybe you can actually read your book if you want to gain that knowledge.
As a bonus:
Justification for slaughtering non-believers: Deuteronomy 13:7-12
Well, I don’t like comparisons of the Bible to the Koran. Where does it say “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”? Where does it say “Thou shalt not kill”? It’s as if some people have never read either yet think they’re in any way similar.
Wait - you’re actually trying to say that because the orders weren’t directly to him that God didn’t order those actions? According to your book, your god ordered the atrocities; it doesn’t matter who heard the orders given, only that they were given at all.
Your debunking has been debunked. Thanks for playing, try again.
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