Posted on 04/09/2017 8:16:19 AM PDT by Enlightened1
Yes, have you ever heard the term “mutual assured destruction”? Look it up. Putin does not want that any more than anyone else.
They may be proud, but they are not suicidal.
Seriously???
You don’t go nuke, unless you’re desperate or stupid or using it as your trump card.
(accept we have just as many trump cards)
Putin knows if he goes nuke, we’ll respond in kind.
Protecting Syria isn’t worth it for him.
Right now, Putin will send a ship or two into the area, to puff his chest and strut. He’ll warn our planes not to come in, lest they get “accidentally” shot down.
All posturing.
What planes is he going to shoot down?
Most of our strikes in Syria BEFORE Friday, were done by drones, not airplanes.
His announcement about a plane no fly zone is pointless, if planes aren’t being used. It’s bluster.
He sent a frigate into the area, “to stop” our destroyers from launching our cruise missiles. Accept his frigate doesn’t have the capability to stop our cruise missiles. It’s nothing but a chest puff.
Consider this.
The much vaunted s-400 defense system is in Syria.
And yet 59 cruise missiles were launched and NOT ONE cruise missile was shot down.
For Putin, it’s important to appear tough.
He knows that in a conventional war against the US, he loses.
If he goes nuclear, WE ALL lose...which means he loses
Nor are we. We spent 40 years in a MAD posture with the Soviet Union. There is a lot of theory on what steps require what reactions in the escalation of threat levels between them and us. Even some actual real-world experience. Do we nuke their homeland thereby ensuring our own destruction in response to their nuking one of our carrier battle groups? It’s not as simple as “they are not suicidal.” Not anywhere close.
They are not stupid enough to nuke us.
Your view is correct...partially.
Military ISN'T the only way of doing things, which your point makes.
There are economical and
Political.
Crimea happened during the Lyin Kings reign.
Obama was Putins best weapon for 8 years.
Europe put themselves into their energy needs.
Their leadership flat out did stupid stuff.
As far as US/Euro forces being assembled, Obama had no intention of doing anything. Without US commitment, Europe isn't going to do anything.
It doesn't matter how big and bad your military is, if you have an idiot or traitor "leading".
Your analysis of the Russian/US military capabilities seems to have left out one other point. Russia is a nuclear armed power with MAD capability. They can not be militarily defeated unless they decide to be defeated. Escalation is always an option for them. They are a proud people - I would not want to bet the fate of life on this planet on the hope that they will back down when the future of their nation is at stake.
I didn't overlook anything. This article is about Russia warning the US...
First ask the question "why is Russia there?"
It's not national security.
Being that IT'S NOT national security, the LAST THING they want to do is anything that can escalate to nuke.
If they are in it strictly for creating a pipeline, nuclear annihilation is an awful high price for a single pipeline.
Russia had free reign to do what they wanted for 8 years, with no worry of retaliation. NOW they HAVE to resort to posturing.
Barry’s red Lines? And crossed by whom?
No more uranium shipments to Russians!
We'd never have to resort to a nuke on their homeland for retaliation, if they nuked a carrier battle group.
The Russians have 168 projection capable ships.
The Russians have 13 Boomers.
3 built post USSR, in '13-'14. These are the boats that get the majority of their tour exercises.
The Russian Boomers do 5-6 tours a year.
That means 3-4 Boomers out of 13 are battle ready. With 2 maybe 3 at sea at any time.
We know where they're at.
Russia built 13 Oscars (cruise missile subs)
4 have been scrapped. 1 lost.
Leaving 8
3 are being modernized. Leaving 5. 3 are nearly ready for retirement. Seldom seeing significant exercise time. Leaving 2 really battle ready. That means no more than 2 are out at any given time.
They have 17 nuclear attack subs.
7 of these are post USSR, with only 2 being from 2000 and 2014.
These 7 are the ones kept in battle ready condition.
Usually 3 maybe 4, out at any given time.
They have 24 conventional powered attack subs.
8 are post USSR, 2 being built in '16, 2 in '15, 2 in '14 and 1 in '10.
These 8 are their battle ready.
4-5 of these are out at any particular time.
At most, 12 subs total, at sea at any time.
Once all are accounted for a timed response takes them all out.
Simultaneously, a timed cruise missile strike hits every battle ready projection surface ship, about 60.
With about half of those actually being out of port, on station.
Followed by the remaining being taken out later.
TWO lowly destroyers launched 59 cruise missiles in a matter of minutes.
If Putin decides to nuke a carrier battle group,
He might as well keep lobbing nukes everywhere.
Our actions in Syria are more likely to deter any of those things than to cause them.
Apparently you don’t. We are not fighting Assad with the terrorists. We are not fighting Assad at all. We destroyed some property as a warning, a deterrent, so that he would not break the terms of the treaty again. We are not engaged in war, and now that Trump has done this, we most likely won’t have to in the future.
Yes, that is correct.
Some of the important details:
European North Sea oil reserves are winding down, this was the main petro supply to Western Europe and they will lose almost all of it within the next decade.
Saudi and ME suppliers (except Iran) to this point have agreed to use only Western Banking and price their petro products in US Dollars, as is currently practiced.
Russia and Iran will work with any stable payment system which could cut out Western Banking and the US Dollar.
New European oil and gas reserves found and exploited, are all on Norwegian and Russian territory and the Russian Arctic.
Tanker ship transport of petro products to Western Europe is much more expensive than pipeline transport, so Western European Globalists and Bankers are in a world of hurt unless they can get the Qatari pipelines through Syria and Turkey.
As an aside, this is why Libyan and Syrian oil can be stolen, transported and sold to Europe by ISIS through Turkey.
Thanks.
Interesting about their planes...hope the Russians ask for money upfront and take their sweet time making them. ;)
I don’t think he is looking at himself smiling because of vanity. I think he is practicing. He knows that his smile is the cover for all the evil he has gotten away with. For him it is studied and valuable.
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