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Assad Did NOT Use Chemical Weapons Deep State Neo Cons Misleading the Presiden
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | April 5, 2017 | Sundance

Posted on 04/05/2017 1:32:18 PM PDT by HarleyLady27

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To: caww

Right now we have Iraq, Egypt, and Jordan who are on decent relations with us. Saudi Arabia and the Emirate nations are friendly towards us too.

Are they in our camp? I wouldn’t necessarily say that, but we have working relationships that are important.

One thing that has surprised me, is the moderate tone Assad took all along toward the U. S. We were his enemy and he seemed to want to moderate to leave room for peaceful relations down the road.

I think Trump will bring a lot more favorable situations in the region and elsewhere than the Left and some on the Right think.

He’s not a country bumpkin. He’s pretty astute.


101 posted on 04/05/2017 3:52:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: DoughtyOne

.....”One thing that has surprised me, is the moderate tone Assad took all along toward the U. S. We were his enemy and he seemed to want to moderate to leave room for peaceful relations down the road”.....

Anytime the libs want to do a regime change they holler what tyrants the leaders are.....they recognize those citizens are very different then those in the US and need a stronger hand until they want to take those leaders out.

If you listen to Assads interviews before, as and during this war he called it right regarding the influx of terrorists.....he’s not the bad guy in this quagmire...he was working with the rebels very well before the terrorists and the likes of McCain and others stirred them up...

We should have never had our nose in Syria’s affairs period.


102 posted on 04/05/2017 4:00:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: DoughtyOne

Liby’s far too unstable to come around..and a long way to go if ever. Obama and Hillary made sure of that....and Frances Sarokosy’s personal issues with Gadaffi didn’t help the matter. Recall the French led the actual military charge by going in first....that was given to Sarkosy for a reason.


103 posted on 04/05/2017 4:09:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: KyCats

“Also, this happens just 2 days after the islamic attack on Russians in St. Petersburg and effectively neutralizes any sympathy the world was feeling for Russia.

“If Assad actually did this, an unprovoked chemical attack on his own people at this point in time, it is without doubt one of the stupidest decisions any world leader has ever made.”

Astute observation, KyCats. Thumbs up.


104 posted on 04/05/2017 4:12:08 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: WENDLE

“Before you change the subject simply give us the proof that Syria is the perpetrator of the Sarin Gas attack.”

Don’t hold your breath waiting for an answer. If you do get an answer, it will be filled with insults toward you and questioning your American patriotism. FR is infested with a small number of disgusting GOPe traitors and Soros Nazis.


105 posted on 04/05/2017 4:23:11 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: sergeantdave

I know . But I am here ,like most, to engage in open discussions of very important issues. We were close .inm this country, of losing all freedoms to speak other than totalitarian liberalism. I am a Trump man from June 15th ,2015 but that doesn’t not mean I eat Trump pie when he is wrong. He was wrong to to back Rinocare and he is wrong on Assad gassing those folks, He is wrong on invading that country without invitation. He is right on everything else.


106 posted on 04/05/2017 4:40:17 PM PDT by WENDLE (Obama administration Wire Tapped the Trump campaign for political purpose.)
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To: caww

I can’t say whether he dealt with the the rebels very fairly or not. I know what our nation would do if an armed group tried to take over. It wouldn’t look very fair, believe me, even if it were.

No, we had no business in Syria. It wasn’t our protectorate and it hadn’t been threatening anyone in the region other than the rebels/terrorists.


107 posted on 04/05/2017 4:43:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: caww

I realize that it is right now. I still hold out some hope that in time it will stabilize.

Some folks just can’t grasp that you don’t stir up a nation that isn’t causing you problems.

Khadaffi is a well known bad guy, but he had moderated in the mid 90s, and was recognized by world leaders for having done so.

Going in there was just sheer stupidity. Soros money was in there before U. S. money was.

He put a lot of money in Tunisia also, before it’s government fell.

He was acting as a secretary of state for the U. S. with his own money.

That’s against the law.


108 posted on 04/05/2017 4:46:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: WENDLE

I hear you. I fall back on my previous tagline during the election to realize that Trump is not perfect:

“Trump will give you 80% of what you want, while Hillary will take 100% of what you have.”

We’re in a war against leftist, traitorous scum, and it won’t be won in 100 days. I’m encouraged by the fact that Trump, in the first 75 days, has advanced the conservative/patriot agenda more than the so-called “conservatives” Bush I and Bush II did in 12 years. That’s 12 - count ‘em - YEARS!

Carry on, good sir.


109 posted on 04/05/2017 4:59:25 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: sergeantdave

Salute! Thanks


110 posted on 04/05/2017 5:00:17 PM PDT by WENDLE (Obama administration Wire Tapped the Trump campaign for political purpose.)
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To: HamiltonJay
This is the only post I am making on this, because I am not going to engage any further in the ignorance that has to be embraced to presume that oil drums falling from the sky set off some sort of chemicals already on the ground.

Was Assad's name printed on those planes you say dropped the gas? Did you see them?

Assad would be risking his entire air force to kill a couple dozen civilians? He can not possibly be that stupid.

111 posted on 04/05/2017 5:14:40 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: itsahoot
Assad would be risking his entire air force to kill a couple dozen civilians? He can not possibly be that stupid.

I agree. Things have been going his way lately... with Obama out of the picture, we've been ramping up the attacks on ISIS. It doesn't make sense he would jeopardize that at this point.

My guess us either a coalition attack bombed a Sarin storage facility, or ISIS used it to to turn us against Assad and take the heat off them.

112 posted on 04/05/2017 5:24:01 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: alternatives?
“relying on reports from the CIA and NSA” I used to be more comfortable with this. Now I am not so sure.

Remember how they had satellite photos "proving" the Russians shot down the Dutch airliner? Except, they never did.

We should all take a deep breath. We have no idea who did what. None of us.

113 posted on 04/05/2017 5:52:16 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
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To: DoughtyOne
Well it goes back to the fact of the violent nature of the muslim people over there....who do need a stronger arm to keep their population even remotely at peace or they'd all be fighting each other and their leadership 24/7.

I didn't understand that until the East seemed to break open and we were able to learn more about the people. A persons religion shapes his world view, including those who ‘say’ they don't have one. ...and we know everything about muslims culture is based on their religion....Islam suffocates and suppresses them from a tender age so no wonder they tend to resort to violence...and that's not going to change as long as there is Islam, the Koran and the teachers who keep them that way for self gain.

114 posted on 04/05/2017 8:25:48 PM PDT by caww
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To: WENDLE

Yeah, if there is a war with Iran or Russia it will be my fault, not putin’s or the mad mullahs. Geez.


115 posted on 04/06/2017 2:46:48 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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To: silverleaf

If there is a war, it will be America’s fault, or the neo-cons, or the Jews. The thing is, and you know this is true, you can trust putin, the mad mullahs, and assad. You cannot trust America.


116 posted on 04/06/2017 2:51:07 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
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To: caww

Your take on it seems close to my own view.

It isn’t my place to judge other cultures in most instances. They have their old traditions and I actually like the different perspectives to a point. That point is reached when something like Islam comes along. I’m sure it isn’t the only very negative ideology around the planet, but exposure to modern (global) influences from outside, have seemed to moderate significantly most extremely dangerous historic practices, neutering them for all intents and purposes.

Unfortunately, Islam is the exception. It flourished.

As a Christian I see reason for this. It is my take that Islam is the false religion specifically designed to compete with God’s plans for man. Satan vs God.

As such it is evil and dangerous.

We can look at the tenets of the Christian religion and the Islamic Cult, and see the differences between good and evil.

I reference Islam as a cult, because of it’s founder, his practices, and the tenets of it’s teachers and parishioners.

Christians go around the world to spread the good word, advance freedom, and to help others.

Islam goes around the world to spread hate, destroy people and property, and to subjugate.

What global relief efforts has Islam contributed to?

What projects have it’s members started around the world to simply help people survive, or improve their lives?


117 posted on 04/06/2017 9:09:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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