There are a few people here on FR that are lying through their teeth. The HFC is NOT never-Trump, though some did not want him to win the nomination. That is not exactly rare; many here felt the same way. However, most HFC guys did endorse Trump after the nomination, or when it became clear he would win. And none, zero, are currently saying they are "never Trump." If anyone has proof otherwise, post it. Otherwise, you are a liar.
Did the HFC vote for Ryan? Most of them probably. There is no way to actually verify (their membership list is secret). But so did everyone else! The truth is the HFC held their nose and reluctantly voted for Ryan, as they did not want to get into a big speaker fight right before Trump was sworn in. And Trump supported Ryan for reelection to Speaker! Were the HFC guys supposed to go against the new President? They held their noses and played ball. Now they are being excoriated by lying liars for...not playing ball!
Hypocrisy, thy name is Never HFCers.
Though I loathe Ryan, I would probably have done the same thing. There were serious discussions behind the scenes of doing it anyway, but they held their noses and voted after Trump indicated he wanted Ryan to stay. But rest assured, Ryan's no friend of the HFC, and vice versa. Blaming the HFC for Ryan being speaker is not just disingenuous, it is a smarmy weasel Sidney Blumenthal pajama-boy type fabrication of the type we despise libs for doing.
The HFC got rid of Boehner.
More below:
Some Truths about the House Freedom Caucus
(In before, "The Kochs! The Kochs!!!")
Here's another good one on the HFC, from the CEO of FreedomWorks: The House Freedom Caucus is not a ‘cancer’ in Congress, it’s the future of our movement
Of course they're not saying it. But actions speak louder than words. And Rep. Poe has confirmed that the HFC did not negotiate in good faith.
In any event, if any healthcare bill is to pass the House, the HFC is going to be part of the process. Without their "yea" votes, nothing will pass.
So I'll be very interested to see what the HFC fanboys have to say on the day that occurs...
“Hypocrisy, thy name is Never HFCers.”
The HFC are the closest thing we Freedom lovers have to political heroes today.
I’m sure you understand that some of the folks here and beyond which are blaming HFC are simply repeating whatever Trump says. Logic or principle has nothing to do with it. If Trump later flips and loves the HFC, which his history suggests will occur, then so will his followers.
I don’t consider these folks evil or anything, but clearly there are elements of a cult of personality on display here. Honest and objective minds can note that fact even while participating in it to an extent.