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To: Luircin

Ryancare sucked swamp water.
Advocating for its passage solely because Trump said it was “wonderful” and excoriating conservatives because they said it sucked swamp water is not what I expected.
The fact that there were more liberal Republicans bailing than conservatives seems to have escaped notice.

Ryancare was swamp water and if President Trump had stayed neutral and not endorsed it I don’t believe there would have been the support for it here that there was.
It was an attempt by the establishment to preserve as much of Obamacare as possible, something one could reasonably have expected that freepers would oppose.


13 posted on 04/01/2017 1:24:02 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Logical fallacy: No True Scotsman, demonization.

I’m pretty sure that most of us ‘cultists’ wouldn’t cheer at all for Ryancare in general. Some of us, however, viewed it as a potential starting point. Or at least a shell that we could scoop out and replace with something better, much like the Dems did for the original Obamacare. (Except in their case it was really bad in both cases)

It’s not being a hypocrite or a liberal to want to see what happens with a bill in committee or reconciliation, and it’s not being a hypocrite to think that it’s possible to negotiate that crap into something acceptable.

And the excoriating conservatives was (likely) a direct result of the fact that the members of the HFC looked Trump in the face and lied through their teeth about their support, not about support or lack of support in themselves.

Demonizing we so-called cultists doesn’t move anyone to your side; it’s only gonna provoke angry replies.


14 posted on 04/01/2017 2:20:06 PM PDT by Luircin (Dancing in the streets! Time to DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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