Posted on 03/31/2017 3:00:07 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables
As stated previously - Germans in WWII were patriotic
I believe in LIMITED FEDERAL G'Ment, rule of Law and the limits the CONSTITUTION proscribes.
And that we have people who give us KELO - taking other property without just compensations - is abhorrent to me. Yet we has judges in the U.S. that rule like this. Not too dissimilar to the judges in 3rd world banana republics or the former Communist countries
Other people who tried the same thing (taking an old lady's house) for their Casino parking in Atlantic City are now the president
Ted Poe - is a local Houston politician. He is being roundly criticized on the local AM radio for his treasonous change of position.
As always follow the money - I wonder who - maybe in his district, maybe in D.C. has bought his loyalty.
Ted has cancer, and weather this has made him go senile and sell his sole is hard to say
And that relates to the AHCA debate how? Those who disagreed with the HFC are to be smeared as Nazis? What a compelling argument! Godwin's Law comes immediately to mind.
Other people who tried the same thing (taking an old lady's house) for their Casino parking in Atlantic City are now the president
This is a well-established and Constitutional concept known as eminent domain. Typically the courts rule on such things, and in the case you're citing, the "old lady" prevailed, and nobody ever took her house, including President Trump.
Of course, Hillary was never accused of trying to take an old lady's house, so maybe she wouild have been a better choice for President.
Or maybe that Canadian guy...
From another FReeper, with whom I agree with 100 percent:
“...The Freedom Caucus was right to reject RyanCare.
The Freedom Caucus was abysmally wrong that it did not have a repeal/replace bill passed by both houses ready for President Trump to sign at 12:01 PM January 20, 2017.
Their failure was not due to intransigence, it was diabolically purposeful.
The Democrats plotted and schemed for years writing 0bamacare, stashed away in file cabinets awaiting the day their party would “own” the government and they could shove down the throats of Americans another major incremental step toward single-payer wholly government controlled “healthcare.”
“Remove one freedom per generation and soon you will have no freedom - and no one will have noticed” - attributed to Karl Marx
All without a single Republican vote (except for those RINOs who voted for cloture in the Senate).
The RINO’s can rightfully claim they did not vote for 0bamacare - but they cannot claim they fought strenuously to defeat it !!
“Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.” - Vladimir Lenin
Then, the RINOs had 7 years likewise to plan to overthrow 0bamacare.
They did nothing. Absolutely nothing.
After the November election, when they realized the GOP would once again “own” the government, they should have kicked into high gear with a legislative plan to “take back” America.
Still, they did nothing; except reaffirm McConnell as Senate majority Leader.
And to again vote for Ryan as Speaker of the House. Even the vaunted Freedom Caucus voted to retain Ryan with all but one dissenting vote.
The new Congress was sworn on January 3, 2017 - they had another 17 days to finalize a repeal/replace bill for Trump.
But, they did not - they STILL do not have a bill.
Status quo.
The RINOs actually love 0bamacare.
And even worse than 0bamacare, Ryan’s version guarantees healthcare to illegal aliens.
In the meantime, the American people continue to suffer a depressed economy, with half the workforce idle; pitiful and far too expensive unconstitutional government mandated healthcare; taxes that not only are too high but predicated upon unconstitutional and immoral programs and (redistributive) principles; and prolonged, intractable wars.
In the words of Charlton Heston, Ronald Reagan, Phil Gramm and Zell Miller, ‘I didn’t abandon the Democrat party, they abandoned me.’
Trump is not abandoning the GOP, they are abandoning Trump.
More important, the GOP, including the Freedom Caucus, are abandoning the People.
Failed promise after failed promise after failed promise.
Trump is trying to wake them up.
In his inaugural speech, Trump promised to restore government to the people and to make America great again.
If the GOP won’t assist in that endeavor - then what is Trump supposed to do?
What are We the People supposed to do?
This is not a battle between Trump and the GOP, or between the GOP and the Democrats.
This is a battle of the people against its dysfunctional government, a government that now operates not upon fundamental constitutional principles but instead for improper purposes.
We’ve had healthcare for the uninsured and those with pre-existing conditions for decades - it’s called Medicaid.
0bamacare gave us nothing new except bigger government, more taxes, poorer actual healthcare and higher costs.
And lies.
“Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.” - Vladimir Lenin..”
Repeat:
“The Freedom Caucus was right to reject RyanCare.
The Freedom Caucus was abysmally wrong that it did not have a repeal/replace bill passed by both houses ready for President Trump to sign at 12:01 PM January 20, 2017.”
Are you for reals? Are you, a FReeper, saying you buy the “Russian hacker election excuse” of the Dems?
Huh?
you have some limited information.
Eminent Domain is the G’ment taking property for USE by the G’ment for all. With due compensation.
This is not meant to be used for commercial takings. Kelo was such a breach of the constitution.
Trump should never have had standing in court. little things like the constitution if adhered to see to it.
If you have no issues with the way the judges decided Roe v. Wade than you have no issues messing with any part of the constitution. There are more examples. Like the judge in Hawaii telling Trump that the judge will decide who to give visas to.
the issue with a legislative removal of Obamacare as opposed to replacing it with Trumpcare are many fold.
1. Legislation is hard to pass - making it difficult in enact and repeal. Maybe like the 18th amendment.
2. If The Donald likes big imposing G’ment legislation like AHCA - you and he may be closet RINOs / Democrats
3. Patriots come in all colors - But mostly patriots love their country - right or wrong.
4. Inferring what is not implied is week - German WWII patriots were not Nazis. Just like all Americans today are not Democrats
Freedom Caucus is full of past and present Nevertrumps
So why did Trump support RyanCare?
Limiting the power of the EPA - Major Plus
Gorsuch - we do not know yet -
Ryancare - Major Minus
Dear Dan:
Reagan and Palin proved you have to out the RINOs with forward movement.
I believe that is what Bannon and Trump are doing.
Calling both the HFC and Ryan on their B.S. in order to get things done; Trump knows forward movement will show up the fakes. And he’s right.
Lord bless Bannon and Trump... help and protect them, Lord Jesus.
In the twenty-whatever years I’ve been reading posts on this forum I’ve seen many a poseur, fake, fifth columnist and professional agitator making posts. As a general rule they always seem to blame real Conservatives. Some are democrat plants or labor union thugs. Others are academic types from Democrat Underground. And others are paid by the George Soros types and, yes, foreign agents. Putin’s employees have been here and are still here.
That’s not true at all
Mark Meadows - Yes
Jim Jordan - Yes
Justin Amash - No
Brian Babin - Yes
Joe Barton - Yes
Andy Biggs - Yes
Rod Blum - Yes
Dave Brat - Yes
Jim Bridenstine - Yes
Mo Brooks - Yes
Ken Buck - Yes
Warren Davidson - Yes
Ron DeSantis - Yes
Scott DesJarlais - Yes
Jeff Duncan - Yes
Trent Franks - Yes
Tom Garrett Jr. - Yes
Louie Gohmert - Yes
Paul Gosar - Yes
Morgan Griffith - Yes
Andy Harris - Yes
Jody Hice - Yes
Mike Johnson - Yes
Raúl Labrador - Yes
Alex Mooney - Yes
Gary Palmer - Yes
Steve Pearce - Yes
Scott Perry - Yes
Bill Posey - Yes
Mark Sanford - No
David Schweikert - Yes
Randy Weber - Yes
Ted Yoho - Yes
They could easily have put the same bill they put on Obama’s desk in January of 2016 on Trump’s desk in January of 2017. But Ryan and the RINOs did not want to do that.
It might get signed.
Mo Brooks has a complete repeal bill and the “leadership” (if you can call it that) won’t let it come to vote on the floor.
Nice Try. The freedom caucus was entirely behind Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz pulls out of the race on May 3, 2016. Your supporting article is nearly a month after Cruz pulled out.
Here — http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/26/politics/ted-cruz-house-freedom-caucus/index.htm
Did you vote for Trump in the Primary?
Yes, I did.
You said they were all neverTrumpers, that’s not true, I counted 2 neverTrumpers.
Whoever they supported prior to the end of the primary is irrelevant.
Trey Gowdy supported the Rat Rubio.
I should ghave said ‘hoped he will’ Probably wishful thinking. The the US Constitution is like the old adage “men are not mountains”. In other words men come and go, but mountains never move.
I'm more worried about rank n file GOPeBushies with Putin, considering H W Bush's “Reagan conservatives are blockheads” comment to Gorbie, and his son W's deep admiration for Putin — looking into his eyes and soul B.S.
The UNiparty cannot get its mind around Trump, playing “right” and “left” off each other and then trying to game it into neo-Cold War positionings.
As for actual hard-line Angela Davis, pro-Soviet commies on FR? All I've scrounged up are hysterical freemasons. Every time in the past fifteen years I've been around, I've only seen one or two instantly zotted Mooslims or Reds. The reason being, they cannot sustain a cogent argument against judeoChristian values or actual conservatism.
Where exactly is your fuhrer/messiah’s replacement health care plan?
The TP movement has no more been dead than the constitution been needed. You really think this is all about Trump now? God forgive you.
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