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Mike Pence’s Scandalous Marriage
The American Conservative ^ | 3/30/17 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 03/31/2017 6:59:46 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Gene Eric; Harmless Teddy Bear
the regard for women as intriguing females in the workplace is far less significant than it once was

I'm not sure what that means. However, I don't think that's the point in question. The point is infidelity, which doesn't require either sex's being "intriguing," just available. The other point is a person's exposure to false accusations or scandal-mongering, ditto.

61 posted on 04/02/2017 2:41:27 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("From the cradle to the grave, man is unteachable." ~ Winston Churchill)
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To: sport

Agreed.

They won’t all go home in the evening to their trans-gyned-poly-amored tea-baggined strap-on knee-padded KY-gellied petri dish of a life...or what they want to pretend is a life.


62 posted on 04/02/2017 5:55:09 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Gene Eric; Tax-chick
Just guessing... the regard for women as intriguing females in the workplace is far less significant than it once was.

No, it is that nice people used to be careful.

Now, they aren't because, that person is just my co-worker, someone that I spend hours every days with. We do little favors for each other. We have inside jokes. We are just unwinding a bit with someone who understands. And we don't understand why you would feel uneasy or excluded. You are just letting your imagination run away with you. Do you think I would cheat? Do you really think so little of me? Oh, coworker spouse, my "at home spouse" is being unreasonable and suspicious. They just don't understand.

And when they end up in bed it will be their wife or husband's fault because they were just so demanding.

63 posted on 04/03/2017 7:51:00 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; Tax-chick

Thank you both for commenting...

>> They just don’t understand.

My point concerns indifference. And perhaps, you’re speaking to maturity and aptitude.

Ironically in the age of “female empowerment,” women have been marginalized to objects that can help pay the bills. It’s what they fought for.

The nature of roles that sustained human existence has been marginalized. The comfort of technology has virtually rendered masculinity useless — an exaggeration but not certainly not a fallacy. Nonetheless, males recognize the trend and seem to be withdrawing. Ultimately, the females lose as they’re naturally more dependent on close relationships with a committed male.

So, we do understand. But many no longer care.


64 posted on 04/03/2017 8:23:53 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
So, in your opinion, males are careless with their marriage, supposedly their closest and most valuable relationship, because of something someone they never met said or did.

O-kay.

65 posted on 04/03/2017 8:34:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Yes, whatever you say, dear.


66 posted on 04/03/2017 8:38:56 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric; Harmless Teddy Bear

I still don’t understand the relevance.


67 posted on 04/04/2017 3:25:07 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: Tax-chick; Gene Eric
Me either.

Apparently men (I say men because GE referenced only men) are careless with their marriage because...

I have no idea. Some blah, blah about people who are not a part of the marriage and women working I think. Because women never worked before now.

Perhaps the problem is people not treating their spouse with courtesy and kindness?

In any case I think boils down to, people, like the Pences, who have a good marriage, have to work at it. And it seems fewer and fewer people are willing to put the time and effort into it.

That is their choice of course but what is really sad is the amount of flack given by the lazy to the industrious.

68 posted on 04/04/2017 11:42:13 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
careless with their marriage because

It sounded like it might have been "sociological forces," or something to that effect. Who sees himself as an active agent in his own life outcomes, these days?

This reminds me of a conversation in one of Robert Parker's "Spenser" novels. Hawk, the black hitman, says, "I'm the victim of socioeconomic forces beyond my control." Spenser says, "You're a leg-breaker because of racism?" and Hawk says, "I'm a leg-breaker because the pay's good and the hours are short."

69 posted on 04/04/2017 11:52:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: Tax-chick

Hawk had a way of getting right down to basics.


70 posted on 04/04/2017 2:49:06 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Parker writes great dialogue.


71 posted on 04/04/2017 2:53:18 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: Tax-chick

Early Autumn was (IMHO) a masterpiece.


72 posted on 04/04/2017 3:03:20 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

It’s been a long time since I read that. I stopped reading the new ones some years back. A kind of sameness had developed. Still great dialogue, though.


73 posted on 04/04/2017 5:23:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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