Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Trump has Already Effectively Repealed Obamacare (Dick Morris)
Facebook ^ | Dick Morris

Posted on 03/27/2017 8:26:37 PM PDT by LS

Dick Morris says what I have said for a couple of weeks. Obamacare really has been killed, and no one noticed.

Trump told the IRS not to enforce the "individual mandate." That is the essential coercive element. No mandate, no O-care. Morris said he did this last week---in fact, I heard more than four weeks ago that the IRS was NOT enforcing this and just assumed it came from Trump.

Second, the requirement that you buy from an "approved" insurance company---Trump waived that as well by telling HHS to approve any policy as "qualifying."

Yes, some of the subsidies and other crap remains, but the individual mandate---which the USSC upheld---is gone and so is the other coercive mechanism.

And nobody noticed.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dickmorris; mandate; obamacare; repealobamacare; ryancarebillpulled; trump; trumphealthcare
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-179 next last
To: LS

The insurance companies should have been shouting this from the rooftops.

I haven’t seen one ad.


21 posted on 03/27/2017 8:48:03 PM PDT by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LS

I just did my taxes with turbotax and it was clear that they no longer required me to enter any proof on my healthcare. So Turbotax is not worrying about it. Not that confirms much but it is a good sign.


22 posted on 03/27/2017 8:48:23 PM PDT by plain talk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LS

That is so true. The key is to go Free Market. the Rinocare bill was a disaster. We have the men of the freedom caucus to thank and God Almighty. Less government— NOT MORE!!


23 posted on 03/27/2017 8:49:26 PM PDT by WENDLE ("Sanctuary" cities break federal criminal law!!-- JAIL!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Antoninus

And the next Dem president we shall have, unless something very tangible is exposed and the whole system reverts back to something that will stop their vote fraud.

You can bet they are right now working voter fraud in exponential terms. They have NO INTENTION of losing EVER AGAIN.

VP Pence is in charge of investigating election fraud. But there needs to be a wholescale cleanup, at least in states with Republican Governors. Why has FL not demanded the registration books of Miami and other counties? Why has Pa, when it DID have a Republican Governor, demand the same of Pittsburgh and Phila, under threat of no funding for them if they didn’t comply?

I’m not expert, for sure, but if honest people don’t step up to the plate and make real change, rest assured the Dems will win and turn this country into an HRC dream come true. It’s now or never for voter fraud exposure and clean up.


24 posted on 03/27/2017 8:49:26 PM PDT by Kalamata
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: LS

So, if I understand Morris right, what’s been done so far removes any new sources of revenues to the government or insurance pool, while keeping all the subsidies (expenses).

Or in other words, keep all the new nonpaying “customers”, while getting rid of paying “customers”.

If things are left like that, insurance premiums deductibles and copays will go through the roof even faster.


25 posted on 03/27/2017 8:51:08 PM PDT by aquila48
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: McGavin999

Correct. But imagine in 1931, as Prohibition was only slightly being enforced, trying to go back to 1921-level enforcement. Realistically, almost impossible to “re-enforce”


26 posted on 03/27/2017 8:51:30 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: FatherofFive

I anticipate this is coming next.


27 posted on 03/27/2017 8:52:18 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: LS
but the individual mandate---which the USSC upheld

Actually they did not.

They called it what it was: a tax.

Which is why the ruling was an abomination. They did not rule on the law, they changed the law.

28 posted on 03/27/2017 8:53:11 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Women who are 25 pounds overweight tend to live longer than the men who mention it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TBP

This is why, eventually certain of Trump’s Executive Orders will have to go through the legislative process and become law.


29 posted on 03/27/2017 8:53:30 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: aquila48

Perhaps—but his point is the mandates-—which was the single most fought element of O-care-—is gone.


30 posted on 03/27/2017 8:53:56 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Michael.SF.

They upheld Obamacare, no matter how you define it.


31 posted on 03/27/2017 8:54:57 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Delta 21

Seems like the people in the know here didn’t know that.


32 posted on 03/27/2017 8:54:59 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: LS

Nullification of unconstitutional laws is better than rebellion, but it still needs to be repealed.

We the people are the final arbiters of everything constitutional.


33 posted on 03/27/2017 8:58:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LS

That’s funny, my bill is still double from last year


34 posted on 03/27/2017 8:58:45 PM PDT by Emergencyawesome
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: saintgermaine; Extremely Extreme Extremist
The reason his poll numbers are in the 30’s is because when it comes to politics most people are pretty ignorant if not outright dumb.

Nope, the primary reason "his poll numbers are in the 30's" is because they are by the same companies that totally skewed the pre-election polling samples to show Hillary winning by a country mile. They were drastically wrong then, and they are drastically wrong now and for the same reason. The secondary reason is the relentlessly negative reporting about President Trump since he became the Republican nominee.

So my advice is to just ignore the polls no matter what they claim, and even if they should be positive for our side. Ignoring polls is a liberating experience.

35 posted on 03/27/2017 9:00:10 PM PDT by Avalon Memories
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Emergencyawesome

Send it to Trump and see what he says.


36 posted on 03/27/2017 9:03:49 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: LS
I've mentioned this too, but those who are intent on sitting in the corner yelling "repeal" can't or won't hear it. Anyone who wonders why Trump is so confident that he'll make a deal to repeal and replace Obamacare should remember that he sealed it's fate with his very FIRST Executive Order!

Hours after being sworn in, Trump signed an executive order aimed at reversing the Affordable Care Act — Obama's landmark legislation — which Republicans vowed to "repeal and replace" throughout the campaign. The executive order states that the Trump administration will "seek prompt repeal" of the law. To minimize the "economic burden" of Obamacare, the order instructs the secretary of health and human services and other agency heads to "waive, defer, grant exemptions from, or delay the implementation" of any part of the law that places a fiscal burden on the government, businesses or individuals."

The question is, who will work with him, and who will find themselves on the outside trying to explain why they are part of the problem rather than part of the solution (HFC members, that means you!)

37 posted on 03/27/2017 9:04:45 PM PDT by bigbob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LS

The penalty is not gone. It’s just set to zero at the moment.


38 posted on 03/27/2017 9:04:58 PM PDT by lodi90
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Karl Spooner

“Send it to Trump and see what he says.”

He said he will work with the Democrats to fix it, I’m so excited


39 posted on 03/27/2017 9:06:14 PM PDT by Emergencyawesome
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Emergencyawesome

Show us the communication.


40 posted on 03/27/2017 9:08:21 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-179 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson