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Gingrich: Freedom Caucus Saved House Republicans From Destructive Vote
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Posted on 03/27/2017 12:39:26 PM PDT by davikkm

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To: davikkm

FINALLY, SOMEONE GET’S IT RIGHT!

Leave it to Newt to be the one!

President Trump needs Newt by his side at ALL times.

here’s what i think:

The enemedia and RINO NeverTrump articles about this so-called “failure” are all delusional, and the best part is that they actually believe their own delusions.

I heard President Trump himself say a few weeks ago that his administration wouldn’t be addressing obamacare repeal and replace until late 2017 to early 2018 (basically when obamacare would be facing complete collapse), so I can’t wait to watch these fools freak the F out when his administration introduces a REAL repeal and replace bill 9 months from now.

As far as President Trump was concerned, RyanCare was nothing but a red herring intended to take Paul Ryan out of all future equations about everything.

RyanCare was a real abortion of a bill, written by the insurance companies who were the only ones who were going to benefit from its passage. The insurance companies clearly had this bill already in hand, and I feel certain had cut a deal with Paul Ryan BEFORE the election, fully expecting (exactly like the rest of the entire world) that HILLARY CLINTON would be President, but believing that some Pub House votes would be needed to get the bill through the House.

RyanCare was actually SUPPOSED to have been HillaryCare, which was why the original RyanCare bill preserved 99.9% of obamacare, and it was supposed to have been Hillary’s gift to the insurance companies, while simultaneously shafting Trump’s voters, who are the people who would have suffered the worst under HillaryCare/RyanCare, with even higher premiums than we pay now, all the while with President Hillary proclaiming to the public that she had “fixed” obamacare.

Ryan went ahead with HillaryCare anyway, thinking he could bulldoze the House into screwing their own constituencies even worse than happened with obamacare. If this had passed, Ryan also knew that it would totally sink Trump’s ship before four years were out, which was another major goal of Ryan’s, namely, to try to destroy President Trump before 2020.

The Freedom Caucus saved Trump’s bacon whether he knows it or not.


21 posted on 03/27/2017 12:58:34 PM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Drago

And yet he full out supported it.


22 posted on 03/27/2017 12:59:04 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: davikkm

Trump out bring Newt into the admin to serve as legislative liaison.


23 posted on 03/27/2017 1:07:56 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: proust

“Implying Trump didn’t plan it this way in the first place. He’s not as dumb as you assume.”

You are right. Ryan set the priorities for house calendar. This is Ryan’s loss.


24 posted on 03/27/2017 1:08:11 PM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: davikkm

Thank you, on this one, Newt Gingrich. You are spot on.


25 posted on 03/27/2017 1:09:26 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Maybe people need to start comprehending and believing what they read, instead of making up stuff they wish were true in their head, and believing that. A huge portion of the left, and now almost as big a portion of the “right” are living in fantasyland. Never before in history has thi country been composed mostly of delusional snowflakes.


26 posted on 03/27/2017 1:20:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: joesbucks
And yet he full out supported it.

And President Trump issued a nasty Tweet afterwards (yesterday) that was misleading...re: the Planned Parenthood public $ abortion "defunding". It was a "bait & switch" with a 1 year "sunset" clause. See: https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/846007730901061634

He needs better briefings from his inner circle...(looking at you Reince Priebus). Ticking off your core supporters/donors is never a good idea!

27 posted on 03/27/2017 1:22:01 PM PDT by Drago
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To: davikkm

My biggest mistakes in life have always been trusting people to do what’s right...and got betrayed.

Trump’s business background includes deals done on handshakes and formalized later in writing.

Generally, business is far more ethical than govt - especially at the federal level.

Trump, hopefully, has seen his “Brutus” who tried to “kill the king” but failed thanks to HFC.


28 posted on 03/27/2017 1:32:18 PM PDT by newfreep ("If Lyin' Ted was an American citizen, he would be a traitor.")
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To: Drago

The defunding of Planned Butcherhood in RyanRinoCare was for ONLY 1 YEAR.


29 posted on 03/27/2017 1:33:54 PM PDT by newfreep ("If Lyin' Ted was an American citizen, he would be a traitor.")
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To: Terry Mross

I do. Nobody said they were wrong. Poe, like me, was disgusted with bad faith negotiating. He’s old line Texas just like I’m old line Arizona. We used to build hiways on a handshake and there is something distasteful about moving the goalposts.


30 posted on 03/27/2017 1:48:22 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: davikkm

Newt is one of my favorite commentators, but he sometimes tries to play all sides of the argument.

I have been watching his frequent appearances on Hannity’s TV show for the last couple of weeks, trying to keep Sean’s dander down over Paul Ryan and the establishment’s handling of the health care bill.

Sean didn’t trust them one bit and Newt was trying to beat it into his head that this was all part of the legislative process. That they would hammer out their differences in the various committees, come up with an acceptable bill that everyone could agree on, and the president would sign it into law.

And Newt stressed that it was imperative that the health care bill pass and the president have his first legislative win under his belt.

So he may be right about the bill being stopped now, but that wasn’t what she was saying before it failed.


31 posted on 03/27/2017 1:49:56 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: newfreep

Yep, the house GOP needs to go back and try again, they could submit a new repeal bill in a week if they really wanted to. Something like “H.R. 1436”...see:

http://www.redstate.com/prevaila/2017/03/26/replica-successful-2015-obamacare-repeal-languishing-committee/


32 posted on 03/27/2017 1:50:00 PM PDT by Drago
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To: davikkm

The title says it all.


33 posted on 03/27/2017 1:54:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Drago

Think again please. AHCA contained these items, which Obamacare does not.

1) No compulsory requirement to buy health insurance with the threat of 2% fine on AGI

2) No requirement to buy government defined minimum coverages. This is the main reason my employer’s health insurance premiums jumped. It now covers items I do not want or need.

3) Elimination of $1 Trillion Obamacare tax on medical items

4) Medicaid reforms

But for purists, it is all or nothing. No wonder the liberals keep winning in the long run by accepting incremental benefits.

The so called conservatives drive me crazy because they want 100% prity or else they walk. The result? Conservatives have nothing to show!

Obamacare defunded?
Foreign trade deficit of $800 Billion every year reduced?
Abortions reduced?
Planned Parenthood defunded?
ISIS defeated?
Less terror attacks worldwide by Islamists?
Less Americans on food stamps?
Americans earning more real wages than 2 decades ago?
Regulations on small business reduced?
National debt reduced?
Flow of illegals into country reduced?

Zilch, Zero, Nada......
Politicians who call themselves Conservative have achieved nothing significantly conservative.


34 posted on 03/27/2017 2:26:42 PM PDT by entropy12 (Read my profile for how to really reduce healthcare costs & improve quality.)
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To: entropy12

There is no excuse for not turning back the liberal tide in any way possible. When Reagan spoke of taking half a loaf and going back for more, he had to work with Tip O’Neal and the rest of the Democratic congress. Real conservatives have waited generations to be in the position we are currently in. If we are going to leave a free nation for our children and grandchildren, the time to act is now!


35 posted on 03/27/2017 3:20:40 PM PDT by I-ambush (If we make it, we'll all sit back and laugh, but I fear tomorrow I'll be crying)
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To: davikkm

Newt is right and Ryan needs to be removed.


36 posted on 03/27/2017 3:21:41 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: I-ambush

There is that something called FILIBUSTER in senate. We are not filibuster proof. Watch what happens to judge Gorsuch.


37 posted on 03/27/2017 3:22:27 PM PDT by entropy12 (Read my profile for how to really reduce healthcare costs & improve quality.)
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To: entropy12

End Obamacare, don’t try to fix it.


38 posted on 03/27/2017 3:22:43 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: joesbucks

He showed loyalty to Ryan, but he knew it wasn’t going to pass.


39 posted on 03/27/2017 3:23:40 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: entropy12
He will be approved.

The Democrats are just huffing and puffing.

40 posted on 03/27/2017 3:24:23 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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