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The Civil War is Here
Frontpage ^ | March 27, 2017 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 03/26/2017 10:04:22 PM PDT by detective

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To: servantboy777

No, you can’t change the minds of the left. In most cases it would never happen. It’s like going into the senseless murder district for a dialog and expecting rational conversation. It’s not going to happen and you’ll be lucky to leave in one piece.


121 posted on 03/27/2017 8:41:17 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: detective
The left is a treasonous movement. The Democrats became a treasonous organization when they fell under the sway of a movement that rejects our system of government, its laws and its elections.

The Left is not about to acquiesce to the Constitution and back down. Instead, they will continue to double down.

Big trouble ahead. Big...

122 posted on 03/27/2017 8:51:40 AM PDT by Gritty (The left is a treasonous movement rejecting our system of government, laws, elections -D. Greenfield)
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To: detective
The secession that caused the Civil War was the direct result of a plot in the Democrat Party to create a slave based economy ruled by a tiny elite.

There already existed a slave base economy ruled by a tiny elite. What you don't seem to grasp is the fact that the elite which was ruling things was in New York. Same as today.

The South challenged that rule, thinking they could own that economy. The elite of New York demonstrated to them that this wouldn't be permitted.

They could have slavery. They could not have economic independence from their North Eastern masters.

123 posted on 03/27/2017 8:54:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Little Ray

“Personally, I don’t see any difference between a Totalitarian System and a Democratic System”

Representative government in which citizens vote is a democratic system. A constitutional Republic is a democratic system.

Everyone knows that the U.S. is not a direct democracy.

When free people vote they do not vote for a system that robs them of their freedom and their possessions unless they are deluded.


124 posted on 03/27/2017 8:58:30 AM PDT by detective
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To: sargon

LOL

Wow, you sure did make my point, so clearly, so succinctly.

Thanks.

As they say, if you throw a rock into a pen full of pigs, the one that yelps, is the one that got hit.


125 posted on 03/27/2017 8:59:53 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: DiogenesLamp

“There already existed a slave base economy ruled by a tiny elite. What you don’t seem to grasp is the fact that the elite which was ruling things was in New York. Same as today.
The South challenged that rule, thinking they could own that economy. The elite of New York demonstrated to them that this wouldn’t be permitted.”

Actually the NY banking elite was sympathetic to a slave based economy and secession.

August Belmont, the Chairman of the Democrat Party, was an international banker and an agent of the Rothschild banks.

The people concerned about a slave based economy were primarily Christians and the farmers and tradesmen of the north and Midwest.

The Washington elite at the time were sympathetic to slavery and secession.

The question was whether we would have a slave based economy in the Midwest and west or a free enterprise economy.

The Republican Party was founded in the Midwest and that was its base.


126 posted on 03/27/2017 9:06:20 AM PDT by detective
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To: dragnet2

Noted. I will try to remember having any kind of normal or civil conversation with you is impossible going forward.

Take care.


127 posted on 03/27/2017 9:07:45 AM PDT by Boomer (The modern day leftist dems are the party of criminally insane propagandists.)
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To: Boomer

Yep, thinned skinned. See ya!~


128 posted on 03/27/2017 9:29:05 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Gritty
Big trouble ahead. Big...

Yep.

129 posted on 03/27/2017 9:46:39 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: Travis McGee

...and that’s just one chapter. These so called “redneck” knuckleheads are forming cells all over the country and taking up firearms. Sooner or later, some anarchomarxist fool with an agenda is going unload a mag and spray a crowded street full of Trump supporters, or on their own and create a false flag op.


130 posted on 03/27/2017 9:54:46 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: ForYourChildren

Amen. Neither the Legislature nor the Executive and certainly not the Judiciary are authorized under the Constitution to make or mandate any kind of a healthcare/insurance plan for us. By no means and God forbid!


131 posted on 03/27/2017 10:00:16 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: Travis McGee

I just watched the video.

I don’t think they would last very long.


132 posted on 03/27/2017 10:18:41 AM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink is dangerous ...)
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To: dragnet2
Yep, thinned skinned. See ya!~

Okay, now you're no different than a radical far left liberal, who ironically is doing some serious projecting herself. I say "her" because I see all leftists as female and your snark is very leftist in nature.

You really should head on back to the DUmmies board where you're from. We are better than your type here... usually.

133 posted on 03/27/2017 10:25:19 AM PDT by Boomer (The modern day leftist dems are the party of criminally insane propagandists.)
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To: detective
Actually the NY banking elite was sympathetic to a slave based economy and secession.

For awhile. As they became more aware of the long term consequences of the economic impact to them of Southern independence, not so much.

Besides, the bankers were not the only interests involved. Southern independence would have had a consequence of 75% loss of economic activity to New York from trade with Europe. The South was a serious long term economic threat to North Eastern business interests.

The people concerned about a slave based economy were primarily Christians and the farmers and tradesmen of the north and Midwest.

Yes, but not because they felt it was their Christian duty to do right by the Black man. Their primary concern with a slave based economy was it's effect on their ability to sell their labor for wages. They hated black people, and were mostly looking out for what they saw as their own economic interests.

The Official narrative would have us believe that they opposed slavery primarily as a moral issue, when in fact they primarily opposed it as an economic issue, and most of them wanted black people deported elsewhere, including Lincoln.

The question was whether we would have a slave based economy in the Midwest and west or a free enterprise economy.

Or more accurately, whether eventual economic control of the Midwest would shift to the South, or remain under the control of the Empire state.

134 posted on 03/27/2017 10:58:56 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: detective
I just wanted to add this. This map is what woke me up to the truth about the Civil War. By itself it appears as if the South was not relevant in the economics of trade with Europe, but when you couple it with the knowledge that nearly 3/4ths of all economic trade value with Europe was created by the South, it shows a picture of massive amounts of money being diverted into New York that originated in Southern States.

Move 3/4ths of that pile off of New York and put it over Charleston and New Orleans, and you will get a better understanding of the monetary stakes involved.

135 posted on 03/27/2017 11:03:57 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: sport

I am stuck in MA (retired from the military and was lured into a job here, bought a modest home, but they are all expensive). I moved from Texas. OMG are there messed up people here. Every single federal office holder is a donkey. I have decided to run against Niki Tsongas for the MA Dist 3 seat. Probably one of the redder areas in MA. Lord help me:

scott4mass.nationbuilder.com


136 posted on 03/27/2017 11:12:41 AM PDT by Change4Mass
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
"A revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We will bring the war to the imperialist enemies' very home, to his places of work and recreation. We must never give him a minute of peace or tranquility. This is a total war to the death" - Che Guevara

Your grand daughter is exactly right. God bless her - and a pox on the Che T-shirt wearing idiots and fellow-travelers of the world!

137 posted on 03/27/2017 11:19:42 AM PDT by Gritty (The left is a treasonous movement rejecting our system of government, laws, elections -D. Greenfield)
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To: Travis McGee

Re: “You are an optimist.”

LOL.

Thanks, Travis, humor always help.


138 posted on 03/27/2017 11:27:45 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: LucyT
More from the article:

"The left responded to democratic defeats by retreating deeper into undemocratic institutions, whether it was the bureaucracy or the corporate media, while doubling down on its political radicalism. It is now openly defying the outcome of a national election using a coalition of bureaucrats, corporations, unelected officials, celebrities and reporters that are based out of its cultural and political enclaves."

Let's see: embedded bureaucracy 95% democrat; corporate elites 90% democrat; unelected officials 90% democrat; celebs, 99% democrat; reporters 90% democrat.

How are we doing?

They are trying to destroy President Trump and our movement. Fight on and continue eternal vigilance. We are indeed approaching a tipping point. They are domestic enemies under the control of Obama and his shadow government two miles from the White House.

Thought I wouldn't have to post this much after the election:

Pray for America and prepare. The War continues!

139 posted on 03/27/2017 11:34:05 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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140 posted on 03/27/2017 11:59:48 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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