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To: ErikJohnsky

You noted out this person Mordechai Vanunu as being an example of someone who hates himself.

I looked it up and saw this is the name of the Israeli who disclosed that Israel had a nuclear weapons program, showing photos that proved the same.

I think that if anyone in the Middle East should be trusted with nukes then it should be Israel, but I don’t understand how that disclosure —though momentus— envinces self-hatred.

I think I can equate his disclosure very roughly with those of Edward Snowden, more recently.

There are those who support him and others who oppose him but I can’t understand the way this “self hatred” term is getting thrown around.

Few have said Ed Snowden HATES himself.

It seems what we’re dealing with is the idea that an in-group member should NEVER EVER stand up for some principle (nukes should be disclosed/The 4th Amendment Matters) if that act impacts the interests of other in-group members:

That’s TRIBALISM and my experience is that Arabs are full of that.

So I’m not sure you should be aspiring to Arab behavior, since so many of them have the idea that the perfect time in history was the 7th Century.


10 posted on 03/23/2017 3:01:27 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin
I looked it up and saw this is the name of the Israeli who disclosed that Israel had a nuclear weapons program, showing photos that proved the same. I think that if anyone in the Middle East should be trusted with nukes then it should be Israel, but I don’t understand how that disclosure —though momentus— envinces self-hatred. Israel state employees then and now knew and were made aware that Israel's nuke program was supposed to be a secret; giving away someone's secret deliberately (not accidentally) is an act of betrayal. He betrayed his own people, hence a self-hater.
11 posted on 03/23/2017 3:04:14 PM PDT by ErikJohnsky
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"I looked it up and saw this is the name of the Israeli who disclosed that Israel had a nuclear weapons program, showing photos that proved the same."

If it is THAT Vanunu family, the dad is also known as John Crossman (according to the Jerusalem Post).

23 posted on 03/23/2017 3:42:32 PM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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Israel signed the NPT and isn't supposed to have nukes.
Vananu gave information about Israel's nuclear weapons program, which would have been useful in terms of diplomacy and military action by Israel's enemies.
He is a traitor and is so far as he is a member of the Israeli communist party, he was a self-hating Jew, prior to claiming conversion to Christianity.
38 posted on 03/23/2017 6:28:31 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets ou<r bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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