[dragnet2]

Paranoia? You got a shadow government covertly manipulating our electoral process, they’re spying on the President of the United States and we no longer know who our spy agencies work for. And you think this guy is simply paranoid for no reason?

Explain to me exactly how they manipulated the electoral process. as far as I can tell spying on the president has occurred since Washington was president

Wow...lemme get this right.

You want me to explain nearly two years of events regarding the manipulation and corruption that went on during this election? Do you doubt it occurred, or is it you just want someone to explain it all to you once again? Get real. Then you go on to tell me all this corruption is simply all routine, and it's been going on since George Washington? Does the imply or are you suggesting since it's being going on for years, it's all perfectly A-OK? If not, why even mention it?

[Nifster]

So dramatic and yet so illogical. To jump to the conclusion that I think the sleaziness of politics is okay is silly. Nothing I said suggests that as a conclusion. The idea that every conspiracy theory or rumor is now true because of Wikileaks or other sources is more than just a bit over the top

Read some history. Mankinds ststems are full of corrupt activity.