Posted on 03/10/2017 8:40:28 PM PST by TBP
Your point is?
So what else is new?
Now, let’s explain it to McConnell.
We hve to save Obamacare to repeal it. At least, that’s wahte the RINOs are telling us.
We have to save Obamacare to repeal it. At least, that’s what the RINOs are telling us.
It’s still a penalty imposed by the government. It’s not as if the insurance company has the option of not charging you that penalty.
The critics of the bill have read the key tenets of it—and it is horrible.
Coming together behind this will set healthcare, our economy, Trump and the GOP back.
More!
It wouldn’t take 50 years. Reagan turned around 40 years of liberal idiology in less than 6
You posted the article
When the Feds jumped into medical care, (I think it was around the time my high school buddy became a physician in the late 1970s early 1980s), it got to be really expensive.
One of the little free market realities to come to see the light of day is the Health Savings Account. That idea was dreamt up by a conservative think tank (the NCPA) and readily employed when more free market types had control of Congress and had the votes to slip it in.
I have an HSA and it is great to just whip out that edit card with my own money in it and pay for at least a portion of my own health care.
It is a measure of freedom.
To institute an Obama-lite medical insurance system will relegate the institution of other great ideas to oblivion.
Would you prefer total Federal control of medicine? Because that is where we are headed.
No, not at all.
But what I prefer is irrelevant.
Are you kidding? This is a terrible bill. It is outrageous.
And what really ticks me off is knowing the GOP had ALL THIS TIME to put something INCREDIBLE...and this is what they came up with? Get real.
Yes, and you posted the graphic. I was responding to that.
So what was your point?
I was responding to Loesch
To what end?
She’s right about this pile of crap they’re trying to foist on us.
she has nothing to say I want to hear from her.
The failure to reach an agreement on a bill to repeal and replace Obamacare will destroy the GOP. The perfect is the enemy of the good. The GOP must develop a consensus that all will rally behind.
The GOP has to get real. They have to produce something that will gain acceptance among all of them.
No, Waiting for ObamaCare to Implode is Not an Option Either…
As more people begin seeing through the fog of political “talking points”, the next response from those suffering from battered conservative syndrome is to say: well, do nothing, and allow ObamaCare to simply self-destruct.
Unfortunately, this is not an option. At least it’s not a reasonable option. To understand how battered conservatives are being lead around, used and abused, it is very important to understand the abusers. There are many.
Last week Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin informed congress it will soon be necessary to raise the debt ceiling. Immediately, crony-constitutional conservative types, like many who assemble in the House Freedom Caucus, shouted “no way”; apparently, according to their pearl-clutching political position – it unnerves their fiscally conservative sensibilities.
Interesting.
On October 21st, 2015, the Freedom Caucus backed Paul Ryan for Speaker of the House of Representatives. (LINK) A week later, October 28th, 2015, the same Freedom Caucus voted to approve a $2+ trillion dollar Omnibus spending bill, a massive continuing resolution, and removed the debt ceiling restrictions (link). Two days later, October 30th, 2015, at 3:00am in the morning, the Omnibus CR bill passed the Senate (link).
This was yet another year without a federal budget, and a specific decision to fund all of Obama’s spending priorities for 2015 and 2016.
That means there is a period from April 1st, 2017 until October 1st, 2017 without a financing mechanism. Hence, Secretary Mnuchin tells congress they need to raise the debt ceiling April 1st, to cover their own previously authorized and approved federal spending…. which they voted to do on October 28th and 30th 2015.
This is not a RINO issue; this is not a RYAN issue; this is a republican congressional issue of their own creation. President Trump didn’t have anything to do with their decision in 2015 to authorize two years of spending, essentially without limits.
They own that vote and that decision. However, now those same voices claim it would be against their principles to vote for an increase in the debt ceiling that is fundamentally required because of their own previous decision.
See now, why their credibility is less than?
This is the mindset behind what I call the “Crony Constitutional” crowd. Those who claim political fiscal purity and litmus tests, yet give a standing ovation to Speaker Paul Ryan at CPAC in February 2016, only three months after passing a two-year continuing resolution, $2+ trillion Omnibus spending bill and removing the debt ceiling. clap-clap-clap.
clap-clap-clap “Muh Ted Cruz”, “#NeverTrump” clap-clap-clap
Now, lets move on to the Healthcare proposal known as RyanCare. Yes, it sucks. Quite a bit of it sucks. However, the Muh Freedom Caucus voted for Speaker Ryan to lead the House of Representatives (Again – Link). So, don’t allow them to play mental gymnastics with you.
Additionally, many in the House Freedom Caucus are now complaining that RyanCare’s tax credits are a new entitlement. However, two years ago, 13 of the Freedom Caucus’s members, including chairman Mark Meadows, co-sponsored an ObamaCare repeal-and-replace bill offered by then Representative Tom Price. That Freedom Caucus legislation included… wait for it….. yup, refundable tax credits. Go figure.
These are your abusers.
Two years later, Representative Tom Price is now HHS Secretary Tom Price, and has created the road-map with the three step plan to get the best possible financial solution through both the House and Senate.
It contains an almost identical framework to the prior proposals which were in the repeal-and-replace bills. Heck, it should – Price built the plan. Just ask President Ted Cruz, or President Rand Paul, or President Marco Rubio; no, wha, huh… wait. What?
As the fog is removed from the “talking points”. People begin to shake off the battered conservative syndrome and realize that all plans are moot if nothing is passed through both the House and Senate. There are only about 30 to 40 Senators willing to vote for a repeal bill. Teeth gnashing, shouting into the radio microphone, railing against the system etc. doesn’t change that.
This bill is not the good.
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