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To: expat2

Got it. And that is where, per this article, they may have really crossed over the line:

“Second, it is possible Obama’s team may have perjured themselves before the FISA court by withholding material information essential to the FISA court’s willingness to permit the government surveillance.”

As one FNC guest theorized, since the FISA court already turned down a request to wiretap Trump, yet a second attempt was successful, wouldn’t it be logical to assume that “something” was different in the 2nd request?

Something like, for example, omitting the name “Trump” and fuzzing it up to make the focus on “foreign entities” or something?

That’s what I’ll bet we find they did in order to get the order approved on the 2nd attempt. And leaving out material facts is a felony.


30 posted on 03/04/2017 6:21:03 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: bigbob
That’s what I’ll bet we find they did in order to get the order approved on the 2nd attempt. And leaving out material facts is a felony.

ValJar may have been too clever by half this time...


39 posted on 03/04/2017 6:28:13 PM PST by COBOL2Java ("Game over, man, game over!" (my advice to DemocRATs))
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To: bigbob

If material facts were left out feloniously to obtain a court order what effect does that have on the validity and enforceability of said court order?


64 posted on 03/04/2017 6:58:56 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
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To: bigbob
This is why we can't have nice things.

You create a power like this, and it becomes available to wannabe banana republic dictators like Obie.

75 posted on 03/04/2017 7:37:34 PM PST by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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To: bigbob

bigbob wrote:

“Got it. And that is where, per this article, they may have really crossed over the line:

“Second, it is possible Obama’s team may have perjured themselves before the FISA court by withholding material information essential to the FISA court’s willingness to permit the government surveillance.”

As one FNC guest theorized, since the FISA court already turned down a request to wiretap Trump, yet a second attempt was successful, wouldn’t it be logical to assume that “something” was different in the 2nd request?

Something like, for example, omitting the name “Trump” and fuzzing it up to make the focus on “foreign entities” or something?

That’s what I’ll bet we find they did in order to get the order approved on the 2nd attempt. And leaving out material facts is a felony.”

Plus, what 0 and minions did was beyond the scope of the first permit; they went ahead and did what they wanted in the first one!


97 posted on 03/05/2017 4:59:36 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: bigbob; RonnG

Yes, we can only hope. The judges on the FISA must be feeling a lot of heat now so they may ne happy to put the blame on Lynch al.


119 posted on 03/05/2017 9:25:42 AM PST by expat2
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To: bigbob

So, having “fuzzed it up”, how will they deflect the tasking of the surveillance, in order to deflect the actual ordering of it by obamaumao, jarrett and of course Lynch. Because this flimsy line would be— “hey, we didn’t order this for Trump... they did it”, kind of provable lie, in the coverup that is happening as we speak. Nixon told the truth, his people did not, and the press had the Cointelpro leader, Mark Felt as their source— the original deep state liar for the Left, and a criminal in his own right. Screaming for Sessions to resign gives it all away. This was planned, and they knew they lied, and they continue to lie.


126 posted on 03/05/2017 10:45:40 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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