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Sorry But Jeff Sessions Absolutely Did NOT Perjure Himself Under Oath When Asked About Russia
Lawnewz ^ | 3-2-17 | Robert Barnes

Posted on 03/03/2017 5:09:20 AM PST by SJackson

Some of the same liberal law professors and journalists who thought Hillary should be President after lying to Congress about hiding emails and who also praised Clapper’s “independence” after he repeatedly lied to Congress about NSA spying, now attack Attorney General Sessions under a bogus claim of “lying” to Congress.

There is no basis to suggest Sessions committed any crime at all for doing his job as a Senator on the Armed Services Committee.

Sessions, as a Senator on the Armed Services Committee, met with over 20 ambassadors in 2016. One of them was the Russian ambassador. There is no evidence, at all, Sessions met with the ambassador to review Trump campaign strategy, or anything of the sort. The suggestion that our Senators should not be meeting with representatives of foreign governments is ludicrous, especially coming from people who championed the Clinton Foundation meeting with foreign governments frequently to fund their Clinton Foundation and personal enrichment.

The criminal law only prohibits lying to Congress under two statutes — 18 USC 1621 ands 18 USC 1001. Section 1621 requires a person “willfully and contrary” to a sworn oath “subscribe a material matter” which is both false and the person knows to be false. Section 1001 is basically the same, without certain tribunal prerequisites: it also requires the government prove a person willfully made a materially false statement. This requires three elements: first, a false statement; second, the false statement be “material”; and third, the false statement be made “knowingly” and “willfully.” A statement is not false if it can be interpreted in an innocent manner. A statement is not material if it is not particularly relevant to the subject of the inquiry. Willfully is a very high standard of proof: it requires the person know they are committing the crime, and do so anyway. None of the three exist as to Sessions.

There was strong evidence Hillary Clinton made false statements to Congress about a range of subjects concerning the emails, and evidence she knew they were false. She still was not prosecuted, and Professors like Laurence Tribe recommended her for the Presidency. There was strong evidence James Clapper lied to Congress about the NSA spying on Americans, and he was not prosecuted, but promoted by President Obama, without complaint from many of these same liberal lawyers, professors and journalists. Yet, these same “lawyers” and “journalists” now attack Sessions for what is manifestly not a criminal act, and for which they never demanded any inquiry of either Clinton or Clapper.

Their only claim against Sessions is that Sessions, while Senator, talked to the Russian ambassador a whopping 2 times in 2016. That’s called doing his job. Senator Franken, during the Attorney General confirmation proceedings, talked about “ties to Russia” and asked if Senator Session had discussed the Trump campaign “with Russian government officials.” Sessions answered he had not. Sessions has no “ties with Russia” and there is no evidence he discussed the Trump campaign with any Russian official. The attempt to conflate Sessions doing his job as a Senator — meeting with ambassadors — as meaning he must have talked about campaign tactics or the campaign at all is patently ludicrous.

Here is the key exchange: Franken asked about “a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.” Sessions answered: “I’m not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with Russians, and I’m unable to comment on it.” Anyone reading the actual exchange can see Sessions was referring to no communications “as a surrogate” just as the question’s very long pre-amble specifically referenced the focus of the question to that subject matter. Nothing about Sessions’ answer was false, nor could it be construed to be materially false or willfully false, or even false at all.

Notably, Senator Franken chose not to ask Sessions about his contacts with Russian officials over the years in his duties as a Senator on the Armed Services Committee. Sessions’ first meeting of the Russian ambassador was in public, and likely known to Franken and others. Franken could not have interpreted Sessions’ answer as anything but an answer to the question asked about campaign contacts with Russian government officials, which no evidence supports ever occurring. Indeed, given what Franken knew, one might fairly ask a different question: why did Franken avoid that specific question? Was it because he’s a lousy Senator, like he was a mediocre comedian? Maybe. Or Maybe it’s because Franken knew the answer would undermine Franken’s argument? Or maybe it was because Franken was planning on mis-using the answer to attack Sessions later?

What next? Senator, have you now, or have you ever been, someone who ever talks with Russians? GUILTY! Doing your job is now considered a crime by the same people on the left who excused actual crime by their Presidential candidate and Presidential appointee. This question needs to be asked of the Sessions smear operators: do you have no shame?


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agsessions; sessionsrecusal; trumpdoj
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1 posted on 03/03/2017 5:09:20 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Therefore he should have never said ANYTHING about recusing himself, even if that is his plan.


2 posted on 03/03/2017 5:10:02 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SJackson

Democrat scu&bags will always be Democrat scu&bags.

One can count on it.

IMHO


3 posted on 03/03/2017 5:18:44 AM PST by ripley (ually to)
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To: SJackson

One can count on the democRATS, they are relentless, unbending and stick together like flies on $%^t. Too many pubbies are disloyal and fold like wet suits. The RATS continue to kick the crap out of them. Time for the pubbies to step up and go on the offense. Investigate Hillary, Holder, Reid and Obama, these folks commited serious crimes against the USA.


4 posted on 03/03/2017 5:18:50 AM PST by kenmcg (uNFORTUNATELY)
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To: SJackson

Thanks SJackson...BFL


5 posted on 03/03/2017 5:21:07 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: SJackson

Being put on the defensive is not good, this is what they want, get you off balance. If Trump has his bulldogs its time to unleash them and keep them relentless


6 posted on 03/03/2017 5:23:52 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: kenmcg
I don't give a crap about Democrats but two Chairs in the House Jason Chaffetz and Darrell Issa who should just declare himself a Democrat because he will never return to Congress as a Republican

Neither laid a glove on any Democrat and Issa got abused in his hearings

7 posted on 03/03/2017 5:24:17 AM PST by scooby321 (o even lower)
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To: SJackson

The Justice department should now start arresting all those people in the Obama administration who either perjured themselves before the Congressional investigating committees, or were in contempt of congress for not cooperating with the investigations.


8 posted on 03/03/2017 5:26:13 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: dfwgator

Be all that as it may, Jeff Sessions HAS preemptively recused himself, which means, that either a Special Prosecutor should be appointed, or the prosecution of any such case as may be found against anyone who had improper contacts with the Russian government will fall to one of the subordinates in the Department of Justice. This is a dangerous practice at the moment, as there are a number of holdover Obama appointees STILL serving, and without a doubt, many are actively subverting the aims and directions of the Trump Administration. The Deep State is in place, like a nest of termites, and threatens all the back channels and internal foundations. Every last one of the Acting US Attorneys should be asked for their resignation IMMEDIATELY, if that has not already been done, and the ones that AG Sessions wishes to retain, just do not accept the resignation. The others may go back to American Civil Liberties Union or Southern Poverty Law Center, or whatever the blazes they came from. But prohibited from serving with a K Street lobbying firm for the requisite five years.


9 posted on 03/03/2017 5:27:13 AM PST by alloysteel (John Galt has chosen to take the job. This time, Atlas did NOT shrug.)
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To: SJackson
The Democrats are demanding that Sessions resign because he did not answer a question he was not asked.

The Russian ambassador who met with Sessions in his office was seen at Trump's talk to Congress on Tuesday sitting with some Democrats. Perhaps he told them about his meeting with Sessions. It may be that Putin doesn't care who is President--he just wants to weaken whichever person happens to be President. As Sessions said yesterday, there were two or three members of his staff present at the meeting, so they could be questioned...but it is ludicrous to think Sessions would have schemed with the ambassadors in front of witnesses.

10 posted on 03/03/2017 5:32:04 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: kenmcg

You can also count on the Democrats to overplay their hand. Their hystrionics appeal to their hardcore base, and precious few others. We’ll see how well their TDS works in the midterms. Prediction: they’ll suffer yet more losses.


11 posted on 03/03/2017 5:36:59 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: SJackson

Idiots! Perjury is not a crime people get prosecuted for anymore. Remember President Bill Clinton?

Why can’t Republicans circle the wagons and stay loyal?


12 posted on 03/03/2017 5:41:54 AM PST by jokemoke
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To: SJackson
Here is the Wapo edit


13 posted on 03/03/2017 5:47:15 AM PST by Emergencyawesome
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To: Daveinyork

“The Justice department should now start arresting all those people in the Obama administration who either perjured themselves before the Congressional investigating committees, or were in contempt of congress for not cooperating with the investigations.”

THIS. The Trump administration needs to go wide open on the offensive on these people and not let up. This is a target-rich environment. If these insinuations continue to drip out, they will dominate the news and interfere with our “recovery”.

These leakers are being seditious and they need to be dealt with quickly and sternly or this crap will continue.

He has his administration, both houses of congress and, soon, the SC. There is no reason for him to continually be on the defensive.

Full steam ahead with the purge and prosecutions!!


14 posted on 03/03/2017 6:07:06 AM PST by CaptainKip
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To: CaptainKip

yeah


15 posted on 03/03/2017 6:39:13 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: scooby321

Ditto
Ditto
Ditto


16 posted on 03/03/2017 6:44:15 AM PST by ncpatriot
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To: SJackson

Why is the author sorry?


17 posted on 03/03/2017 8:20:00 AM PST by Tax-chick ("I prefer to think of myself as ... civilized." ~Jonathan Q. Higgins)
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To: SJackson
Sorry...

Why? What'cha do?

18 posted on 03/03/2017 10:56:34 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Tax-chick; JimRed

Sarcasm, implying those who think this is perjury are morons. Imo since I use it that way. Liberals use it to issue fake apologies, similar to sorry IF I offended anyone. Don’t think that’s the case here.


19 posted on 03/03/2017 4:13:50 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: ronnie raygun
Being put on the defensive is not good...

You're correct, but in the face of a hostile media charges have to be answered. A shame this explanation wasn't in at least a bit of the mainstream rather than a law site. But only for so long, and you're also correct after stating the fact, let the dogs out.

20 posted on 03/03/2017 4:16:16 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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