Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Historians rank Barack Obama 12th best President: survey
New York Daily News ^ | 02/28/2017 | BY JESSICA SCHLADEBECK

Posted on 02/28/2017 1:34:51 PM PST by SeekAndFind

It’s only been a few weeks since former President Barack Obama left the White House, but presidential historians have already placed him on the right side of history.

AC-SPAN survey of 91 historians and presidential experts ranked the Democrat the 12th best leader in United States presidential history — just ahead of James Monroe and right behind Woodrow Wilson.

Another Illinois politician, former President Abraham Lincoln, claimed the survey’s top spot. He’s followed closely by George Washington, with Franklin D. Roosevelt rounding out the top three.

Experts who participated in the survey were asked to grade the presidents on 10 different facets of their terms in office, like “Crisis Leadership” and “International Relations.”

Obama earned high marks for his pursuit of “Equal Justice for All,” ranking third in the category behind Lincoln and former President Lyndon B. Johnson. He also cracked the top 10 for his “Moral Authority” and “Economic Management,” ranking seventh and eighth, respectively.

The 44th president’s lowest mark is for his relationship with Congress. Historians ranked him 39th, ahead of only a few others including former presidents Franklin Pierce and Andrew Johnson, who was ranked last.

Experts said the passing of time will likely effect Obama’s rankings in the future and remained mixed on whether the former President’s marks were higher or lower than expected,

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: historians; obama; president; ranking
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-163 next last
To: SeekAndFind

Uber-liberal historians rating uber-liberal president. Predictable results.

BTW, this survey probably represents “peak Obama.” As his “achievements” are obliterated and he fades into history, he will assume his rightful place at the bottom of the list.

Of course, I don’t see academics/presidential historians becoming more conservative anytime soon, and Barry’s #1 retirement mission (other than getting richer) is protecting his legacy. So, it may take a while for his rating to begin to sink.


41 posted on 02/28/2017 2:38:30 PM PST by ExNewsExSpook
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ExNewsExSpook

If they mean 12th in a random group of 12, I’ll buy THAT!


42 posted on 02/28/2017 2:49:57 PM PST by myerson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I’m quite certain these 91 “so called” historians are UBER Liberals from UBER LIBERAL schools ergo this ranking has ZERO credibility.


43 posted on 02/28/2017 2:50:09 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Silliness.

Let a generation pass before making any such assessments.

At that point, clearer heads will render a very different opinion: obama was the worst president in the entire history of the nation.


44 posted on 02/28/2017 3:00:55 PM PST by Jack Hammer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SaveFerris; KC_Lion; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; TWhiteBear; WildHighlander57; ...

Ping to # 25 , - # 26 , and other ...

Thanks, SaveFerris.

45 posted on 02/28/2017 3:01:51 PM PST by LucyT
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: LucyT

It was a rather rude awakening to me. I split my paragraphs; the guy I was referring to was the one trying to convince me of the study. I think one of our client’s employees married him. They were certainly dating when I left.


46 posted on 02/28/2017 3:05:37 PM PST by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Bryanw92
Jefferson Davis wanted war. The hotheads in Charleston wanted war.

Or they wanted Lincoln to just crumple up and give in to their demands.

Lincoln did what we expect any American president to do -- keep his oath to the Constitition and be firm in the face of threats.

47 posted on 02/28/2017 3:10:50 PM PST by x
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: x

>>Jefferson Davis wanted war. The hotheads in Charleston wanted war.

They wanted to secede. Lincoln made it clear that he would not permit that, even if it required killing Americans and occupying sovereign states. That’s what inflamed those “hotheads”. He was a lot like a modern Progressive in his attitudes toward those whom he considered less enlightened.

And, the northern industrialists had a steady supply of desperate and poor Irish to work as rented and expendable near-slaves, so Lincoln had them at his back.


48 posted on 02/28/2017 3:27:27 PM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

They must think we have only had 12 presidents...


49 posted on 02/28/2017 3:36:01 PM PST by BBB333 (The power of TRUMP compels you!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: x

I always ask the “Johnny Rebs’’ a question: If the South had won the war would they have freed the slaves? I never get an answer to that one.


50 posted on 02/28/2017 3:38:29 PM PST by jmacusa (Election 2016. The Battle of Midway for The Democrat Party.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The 12th best? Yes...he was compared to 12 presidents...To me, Obama is tied with Bush 43 as the worst president of my lifetime with Trump as the best...


51 posted on 02/28/2017 3:39:00 PM PST by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The religion of Pedophilia...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I do not undererstand You People, 43 People have served as President of the United States. Obama is 43rd worst..not 12, 15, 23rd..


52 posted on 02/28/2017 3:41:36 PM PST by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (------->VMFA 235 '69-'72 KMCAS <------- "Death Angels")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I actually put Obama fifth….

1. Lincoln, Reagan and Truman tied for first place
2. Sixteen Presidents tied for second place
3. Twenty-three other Presidents tied for third place
4. Jimmy Carter came in fourth, and ...
5. Obama was fifth.


53 posted on 02/28/2017 3:44:10 PM PST by hecticskeptic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bryanw92; BroJoeK; DoodleDawg
Davis and his crew were exploiting the crisis to pull as many slave states out of the union as they could. They weren't opposed to killing Americans to get what they wanted. Lincoln was just determined not to give into them. The secessionists were the ones who wanted war and got it. That was before he tried to "occupy" any states.

He was a lot like a modern Progressive in his attitudes toward those whom he considered less enlightened.

That's the kind of BS one hears nowadays. Lincoln posed no immediate threat to the slave states when he took office. He proposed no changes to the internal affairs of the states. Slaveowners feared that if they stayed in the union after a Republican was elected slavery would eventually be abolished, so they pushed to get out.

54 posted on 02/28/2017 3:45:35 PM PST by x
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Lefties, or muslim inspired “historians”.


55 posted on 02/28/2017 4:22:15 PM PST by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Moral authority? More like immoral authority.


56 posted on 02/28/2017 6:02:35 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Vlad The Inhaler
And he left the nation divided in ways that persist even today, over 150 years later.

Almost everyone who doesn't think for himself believes that.

Seriously, sectionalism and hostility between south and north predates Lincoln by decades. If you want to find root cause of the animus you need look no further than the dhimmicrats of the day. Just like the current crop they were poor losers.

He did almost nothing to avoid the conflict or bring it to an early end.

He did everything except capitulate. Thank God he didn't.

57 posted on 02/28/2017 6:50:16 PM PST by rockrr (quick, LOL)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Bryanw92

Lincoln was not merely the greatest president the USA ever had, he was one of the greatest historical figures of all time. It is all well recorded in his speeches. That War was a long time coming. He was the right man at the right time. His number one priority was to preserve the Union. Unfortunately he was shot in the back of the head by a whacked-out southerner and never got to complete his second term. Y’all would be viewing him in a different light if he’d been able to bind the wounds. He’d have won you over. I have no doubt in my mind about that. The assassinater made the North come down that much harder on y’all during reconstruction. Tough sh*t. Y’all brought it on yourselves. There would be nothing left of the USA if it wasn’t for honest Abe.


58 posted on 02/28/2017 9:29:33 PM PST by HandyDandy (Are we our own rulers?,.......or are we ruled by the judiciary?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: HandyDandy

Lincoln was a high powered railroad lawyer who, as President, became a tyrant.


59 posted on 02/28/2017 9:35:29 PM PST by Right-wing Librarian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: Right-wing Librarian

Kinda skimpy on details aren’t we? Ever hear of the Lincoln Douglas debates? Of course you also are aware Lincolns first term was run during wartime?


60 posted on 02/28/2017 9:42:55 PM PST by HandyDandy (Are we our own rulers?,.......or are we ruled by the judiciary?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-163 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson