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The Fourth Circuit Runs Roughshod over Heller and the Second Amendment
National Review ^ | 22 Feb 2017 | CHARLES C. W. COOKE

Posted on 02/22/2017 12:26:00 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze

Freed up by the Supreme Court’s ongoing reluctance to engage in depth with the Second Amendment, the Fourth Circuit has taken it upon itself to rewrite Heller en banc. In a 10-4 decision, issued yesterday afternoon, the court upheld Maryland’s ban on both “assault weapons” and “high capacity magazines.” By so doing, it deprived the people of Maryland, the Carolinas, and the Virginias of the core protections to which the Constitution entitles them.

As Judge Traxler’s dissent pointedly establishes, the majority achieved this transformation by contriving “a heretofore unknown ‘test,’ which is whether the firearm in question is ‘most useful in military service.’” In effect, this “test” is designed to permit judges to determine that any weapon they might dislike is unprotected by the Second Amendment and can therefore be prohibited with impunity. Forget that Heller contains its own explicit tests. Forget the “common use” standard. Forget “dangerous and unusual.” There’s a new kid in town, and he’s coming for your rifles.

What counts as “most useful in military service” under this rubric? Well . . . everything, theoretically.

. . . continued

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: 4thcircuit; banglist; blackrobedtyrants; gungrabbers; heller
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Seems the court seriously overlooked a footnote in _Heller_ (which while it does not carry weight of law, it serves as a warning to future litigants) wherein Scalia basically said full-auto M16s would be found completely legal if SCOTUS were compelled to rule thereon.


21 posted on 02/22/2017 12:54:51 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Understand the Left: "The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution.")
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To: tet68

Sounds like a perfect time to bring a case in MD demanding legalization of short shotguns.


22 posted on 02/22/2017 12:56:35 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Understand the Left: "The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution.")
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To: GregoTX

unless a court deems the arm to be battlefield worthy.
= = =

I am reading some 14th century history.

Sticks, arrows, clubs, horses, swords, pitchforks, etc. - - all battlefield arms.


23 posted on 02/22/2017 12:58:39 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: PROCON

Ping


24 posted on 02/22/2017 1:03:16 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Muslim & Spanish migrants are like Kudzu--> designed to overload the system= Cloward-Piven)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Congress is in the business of taking care of themselves. They do not want accountability for anything and have abdicated many of their powers to both the executive and judicial branches.

It’s what they do.


25 posted on 02/22/2017 1:05:11 PM PST by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
This decision is 180 degrees counter to the SCOTUS decision in United States v. Miller

2. Not violative of the Second Amendment of the Federal Constitution. P. 178.

The Court cannot take judicial notice that a shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches long has today any reasonable relation to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, and therefore cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees to the citizen the right to keep and bear such a weapon.


26 posted on 02/22/2017 1:06:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Winning. Winning winning winning every day!!!)
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To: GregoTX

Appeal. Let’s argue in June!! Yes Perfect!!


27 posted on 02/22/2017 1:14:42 PM PST by WENDLE (TRUMP 2020 !!! It is ON!! God blessed this country!!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

The Fourth Circuit will find itself at odds with the SCOTUS Miller decision, which held that civilian-owned firearms “that are usual to military use” are protected under the Second Amendment. Recall that the Miller decision held that a sawed-off shotgun was not usual to military use, and thus was not a weapon protected under the Second Amendment.


28 posted on 02/22/2017 1:32:45 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

When your quest is a predetermined decision, and your word is likely final, then any rationale will do.


29 posted on 02/22/2017 1:39:01 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Yep, did some reading on this one. More liberal judges making it up as they go violating their oaths.


30 posted on 02/22/2017 1:47:57 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Sgt_Schultze

So judge Wilkinson has passed over to the Dark Side. To think that he was once the darling of the GOP.


31 posted on 02/22/2017 3:14:22 PM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Well, I just retired and am looking to relocate from Los Angeles. It won’t be to the area assigned to the Fourth Circuit Court. A$$holes!! SSZ


32 posted on 02/22/2017 3:38:46 PM PST by szweig (HYHEY!! (Have You Had Enough Yet))
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To: tet68; DesertRhino
tet68 said: "And yet in the thirties didn’t the court outlaw sawed off shotguns as NOT being weapons of war despite being used in the trenches?"

As pointed out in the quote included in Post #26, the Supreme Court in Miller made no decision regarding the short-barreled shotgun and, in fact, remanded the case back to the District Court for future proceedings. Unfortunately, neither of the parties, Miller nor Layton, was available to pursue the case.

The clear implication was that, if the shotgun was useful to a Militia, then its possession by Miller would have been protected by the Second Amendment. This is totally opposite to this terrible decision.

33 posted on 02/22/2017 5:11:28 PM PST by William Tell
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To: ought-six
ought-six said: "Recall that the Miller decision held that a sawed-off shotgun was not usual to military use, and thus was not a weapon protected under the Second Amendment."

The Supreme Court did NOT decide that the shotgun was not useful. Such a determination would require fact-finding which is more properly a function of the lower court. That is why they reversed and REMANDED the case.

34 posted on 02/22/2017 5:15:33 PM PST by William Tell
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To: William Tell

Yes, that’s it. A bad decision.


35 posted on 02/22/2017 5:32:18 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: William Tell

In Miller SCOTUS held that a sawed-off shotgun was not a usual military arm, and thus was not a weapon protected under the Second Amendment. The defendants in the original case apparently did not even offer up any kind of legal defense vis-à-vis SCOTUS.

A shotgun has use as a military arm, but not — per SCOTUS in Miller — a sawed-off shotgun.

In the instant case the Fourth Circuit has held the dozens of common semi-auto firearms are not protected by the Second Amendment, and thus arguably that decision is in conflict with Miller.


36 posted on 02/23/2017 6:59:16 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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