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To: springwater13

The CIA has been stuffed full of Communists and leftists of all kinds for as long as I can remember. I used to think that the OSS was OK, before the changed the name, but then I realized that FDR was basically a Communist and that they were working for him and his good pal Stalin. Sure, they did a lot to defeat Hitler, but only to hand everything over to Stalin instead.

And the FBI has been pretty bad, too.

I don’t know what on earth Trump can do about all that. He can get rid of the REALLY bad appointments that Obama put in, but this has been building up for decades, one President after another.

This is going to be a very tough job.


11 posted on 02/15/2017 7:13:35 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

The CIA is, was and always have been the mafia leg breakers for the fascist Wall St. oligarch globalists. It’s job was to secure low cost raw materials for the West, maintain the debt slavery of the 3rd World, suppress any movement to redress this criminal extortion and keep the media and the public unaware of who these Bilderberg aristocrat basterds actually are...goosestepping Nazi goons birthed in the beginnings of the NSDAP, the National Socialist Workers Party. Watch these videos:

Everything is a Rich Man’s Trick Pt 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9AJcS2KsQE

The Money Masters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4wU9ZnAKAw

Debt Slavery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwO1onXAaI&list=RDbKwO1onXAaI#t=127


22 posted on 02/15/2017 7:25:08 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui (Smarter - Faster)
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To: Cicero

“I don’t know what on earth Trump can do about all that.”

FDR called Wild Bill Donovan, and told him to organize the OSS from scratch.

Seems like Trump could call on someone competent and tell him to build a new agency from the ground up, after blacklisting current employees.


26 posted on 02/15/2017 7:30:36 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Cicero

The CIA has been stuffed full of Communists and leftists of all kinds for as long as I can remember. I used to think that the OSS was OK, before the changed the name, but then I realized that FDR was basically a Communist and that they were working for him and his good pal Stalin. Sure, they did a lot to defeat Hitler, but only to hand everything over to Stalin instead.


My father was a young officer in Army OSS in World War II. He was a good kind wonderful Christian man, a patriot and probably slightly to the right of Barry Goldwater. How DARE you make a broad brush statement like that. I know my father would never ever ever have been part of anything like that. He was working organizing resistance against Japanese in China and China was not even taken over by the communists during WWII. I have no idea where you came up with that idea.

Yes FDRs domestic government was infiltrated by commies at that time , but OSS was part of the military and it served a military intelligence purpose.

Yes the agencies now have been totally corrupted but it wasnt like that back then.


35 posted on 02/15/2017 7:53:46 PM PST by boxlunch (Pray for Donald Trump's safety, for his family and cabinet. Make America Good Again!)
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To: Cicero

Basic human intelligence is likely the best way. Spreading the huge volume of necessary tasks using the pyramid structure, identifying key trusted sources farther down the hierarchy in each agency and relying on them to name the radicals and subversives. They will know it based on working with them on a daily basis.


38 posted on 02/15/2017 8:08:56 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Cicero

This is a VERY Trumpian move.


40 posted on 02/15/2017 8:16:10 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the 4Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Cicero; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

An impromptu historical overview of the issues you’re raising: Russian intelligence infiltrated the OSS during World War II. Military intelligence provided a list of suspected Communist agents to the FBI and Joseph McCarthy after the war. This became an embarrassment to the CIA, particularly because Allen Dulles had been sympathetic to Alger Hiss before he realized Hiss was guilty. So the CIA deployed their media assets (Operation Mockingbird, centered around CBS and the Washington Post) to discredit McCarthy, whose investigation of Communist infiltration of the Army and of the CIA’s operations in postwar Europe was threatening to embarrass both the Army and CIA. The FBI didn’t trust the CIA and limited its information sharing, which created friction between the agencies. This was compounded when Soviet moles and alleged double-agents in MI6 (Cambridge Five esp. Kim Philby) and CIA (Otepka investigation, which included an investigation of Lee Harvey Oswald) were exposed and a molehunt began. CIA’s counterinteligence capability to pursue this molehunt was hampered by the fallout from Watergate and the Church Committee. The FBI kept the leftists out until the Bush administration, when government gender/racial quotas mandated hiring unqualified agents on the basis of gender and race. This grew worse from Clinton on, increasingly enabling Muslims to infiltrate the Bureau. Other intelligence agencies have also been politicized and infiltrated, notably the NSA and DHS. What Trump is doing is very necessary, whether the entrenched intelligence bureacracy likes it or not.


51 posted on 02/15/2017 8:49:43 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Cicero

May Donald J. Trump be the victor of this fight......


57 posted on 02/15/2017 10:20:33 PM PST by Spiridon
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To: Cicero

It really is. Has a tough row ahead.


58 posted on 02/15/2017 11:39:53 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (****happy dance**** BIGLY!!!! Shadilay!)
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To: Cicero

I know several military folks that have had candestiline dealings with the CIA in the sandbox. Not one of them has anything good to say about CIA officers. It is not an ego thing with them, they just have no respect for the CIA’s motives and techniques. In the movie 13 Hours the CIA station chief comes off as a douche. I believe that is typical for them.


66 posted on 02/16/2017 4:08:39 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It's a war against humanity!" Donald J. Trump)
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