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Shoving Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals Right Back in the Left’s Ugly Face
Townhall.com ^ | February 13, 2017 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 02/13/2017 5:06:59 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: rlmorel; Pollster1

GWB was a flat-out traitor who spent his entire term enacting Saudi foreign policy and covering up their crimes against us.

The GWB-as-naif theory doesn’t hold a drop of water.


41 posted on 02/13/2017 6:56:17 AM PST by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Silly liberals, Rules for Radicals can always be applied to use as Rules AGAINST Radicals...

Same for house/senate rules, EO's, judicial activism, funding, departmental appointments and actions...

Valerie Jarrett purportedly said: “After we win this election, it is payback time. For those who supported us, there will be rewards, for the ones who opposed us, they will get what they deserve. There will be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. With no election to worry about, we have two judges ready to go." BTW, ValJar's family is intermarried with Bill Ayers' family.
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/11/18/valerie-jarrett-there-will-be-hell-to-pay-for-obamas-critics/

42 posted on 02/13/2017 7:00:41 AM PST by polymuser
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To: Kaslin

A war cannot be won by exclusively fighting defensively.

We need to “take the war” to the left. But how?

1) Start with the weapons they have created, but turn them around to be used against them.

“Operation Choke Point”, in which the Justice Department coerced financial institutions, especially banks, to not provide banking and loan services to a list of *legal* businesses that the left despises, in particular, gun dealers, but also hit:

Ammunition Sales
Coin Dealers
Credit Repair Services
Dating Services
Fireworks Sales
Home-Based Charities
Money Transfer Networks
On-line Gambling
Pawn Shops
Payday Loans
Pharmaceutical Sales
Surveillance Equipment
Tobacco Sales
Travel Clubs

Anyway, President Trump should *keep* “Operation Choke Point”, but re-designate the currently legal targets that should be denied banking services, to include:

Planned Parenthood
Innumerable Soros-Funded organizations
Innumerable Tides Foundation funded organizations
The SPLC
The ACORN spin-offs
Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS)
Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)
International Action Center (IAC)
Midwest Academy (MA)
Movement for a Democratic Society (MDS)
Students for a Democratic Society (SDS)
The Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL)
Refuse & Resist! (R&R)
ANSWER Coalition
MEChA (Movimiento Estudiantil de Chicanos de Aztlan
National Lawyers Guild (NLG)

2) President Trump’s next move should be to “deflate the higher education bubble”.

Eliminate all federal funding for racist, sexist, anti-American, radical leftist, and other worthless college majors and courses, both direct funding and provision of student loans to this crap. No reason in the world for the US government to subsidize radicalism and anti-Americanism.

If students want to attend college to get a useful degree, fine. And lean on universities to eliminate worthless “mandatory courses in p.c.” If students want that stuff, they have to pay cash up front. No student loans for this foolishness.

3) Next up, turn most of the federal funding to states into block grants, with “recommended but not mandatory federal guidelines” for their use, and *no*, *zero* strings attached. That is, for example, strip the popular student lunch program from hundreds of federal requirements placed on it, “or we will take away your money”.

And nail those coffins shut with a powerful rule that no additional requirements can be added to any block grant without the overwhelming support (even 2/3rds) of congress.


43 posted on 02/13/2017 7:01:02 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Leftists aren't fascists. They are "democratic fascists", a completely different thing.)
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To: Pollster1

Sorry, Bushes are now known globalists. It was all about oil, always was/is with the Mideast. If not for oil, we’d never have heard of Kuwait or Iraq (except mayber for honey and wool blankets).


44 posted on 02/13/2017 7:05:36 AM PST by polymuser
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To: thoughtomator

That is your opinion, thoughtomator. I disagree with it.


45 posted on 02/13/2017 7:13:33 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: rlmorel

Try to think of an innocent reason why GWB adopted the slogan “Islam is a religion of peace” and tried to force it down our throats for all those years.

I’ll wait.


47 posted on 02/13/2017 7:21:50 AM PST by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

Agreed. Liberals are gutless bullies when they think nobody will push back.

Push back on them, and they lose their minds, because beyond being a-holes who take advantage of the good nature of some people, they have absolutely no arguments since their knowledge of issues is a mile wide and a nanometer deep.

If even that. You scratch the surface with a logical argument, and they go directly to ad hominem, because that is all they have.


48 posted on 02/13/2017 7:22:34 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: thoughtomator

I view it as political expediency, not much more than that. We went to war with the Soviet Union as allies and had a lot of kissy-face things to say about them, but...Roosevelt and the Dems of the day were ideologically in bed with them anyway.


49 posted on 02/13/2017 7:24:22 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: thoughtomator

Just to be clear, I disagree with GWB on a wide variety of critical issues, but I give him leeway in the armed conflicts of the day. I just don’t think there was a good “fine line” to tread. I hated hearing “The Religion of Peace” as much as anyone.


50 posted on 02/13/2017 7:26:35 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: Kaslin
What’s the Democrats’ program? “Give us more of your money so we can buy votes from welfare cheats, and then we’ll lecture you on your privilege?”
51 posted on 02/13/2017 7:46:12 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: rlmorel
I hated hearing “The Religion of Peace” as much as anyone.

The Bush clan was and is bought and sold by the Arabs.

Peaceful? Every Muslim who swears to the Koran swears that they will work to overthrow western (infidels) governments and replace them with Sharia Law.

These heathens believe that for Mohamed to return, the entire world must by 100% grade A Islam.

To get to 100% Islam, they are commanded to kill and behead, to rape infidels everywhere, to enslave your children and wife as sex slaves if they so chose.

According to Bush's Muslim buddies, you can either submit or die. Your choice but you'd better hurry because Hussein Obama's buddies are still flooding peaceful Muslims into the US to kill you, your family, your way of life.

That's what Muslims do, they lie and deceive to fool the infidels. There are still a sizable number of dumba$$ Americans who still don't realize that Hussein Obama was America's FIRST Muslim President. If the presstitutes told Americans the sky is green, many would go buy new glasses to tint it that way so they could agree with the liars. Stupid is an understatement.

52 posted on 02/13/2017 7:48:07 AM PST by politicianslie (What would a terrorist do if he were made POTUS? : Exactly what Hussein Obama did)
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To: rlmorel

Why give him leeway on the “armed conflicts of the day”?

Afghanistan - we went in a year after he took office. 7 years later we were still there without the mission accomplished, bleeding men and money all the way, handing the war to Obama to mismanage similarly. For comparison’s sake, World War 2 took us less than 4 years to wrap up from the date we entered.

Iraq - we went in on the basis of blatant lies single-sourced from a compromised individual. Trillions of dollars, fourteen years, and many dead & wounded later, we’re still there, and somehow ISIS controls a large chunk of the country despite our massive military presence.

Those are GWB’s “armed conflicts of the day”: perfidy and incompetence culminating in epic failure and unmitigated disaster for the American people.

If you’re giving him a pass on that I’d have to seriously question your values and judgment.


53 posted on 02/13/2017 7:55:37 AM PST by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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To: rlmorel; thoughtomator
Actually, it's the widely held belief among those who have a clue ie the majority of conservative thinkers. Or have you missed the constant references @ FR and across the net with respect to all encompassing terms such as: uni-party, globalist, neo-con, etc?

As for Alinsky, his book is primarily about the effective use of tactics for attacking an entrenched opponent. A fair analogy would be a book on siege tactics vs open field battles.

The point being, his list of rules works primarily against the status quo. And who represents the status quo today? That's why the left, as were conservatives a generation before them, unable to stop the momentum to the attacks. I saw a post @ Reddit (mostly 20-somethings fighting on the front lines against SJWs) remark that they are now the "radicals".

54 posted on 02/13/2017 7:56:57 AM PST by semantic
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To: chajin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJXKVOxqkWM


55 posted on 02/13/2017 7:58:44 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Kaslin
Great example of #5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” The GOP needs to employ this tactic.
56 posted on 02/13/2017 8:27:26 AM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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To: thoughtomator

Many of the people who complain about the intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan are often the same people who would have complained the loudest if nothing had been done. (not necessarily saying you are one of them)

I’ve thought it through and I think we did the right thing even if it didn’t turn out as hoped. I am not one of those who think we should have carpet bombed Iraq or Afghanistan or dropped nuclear weapons on them.

People who know me understand my values and judgment and largely respect them in these matters, so that counts for something to me.

I understand and respect your opinion, thoughtomator, I just don’t agree with it.


57 posted on 02/13/2017 8:37:48 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: Proyecto Anonimo

Excellent point. I like it.


58 posted on 02/13/2017 8:40:18 AM PST by Kaslin ( Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: semantic

I understand all that, but he advocates open deception and outright lying to achieve goals, never mind the actions that he states are wholly justified by the goals.

That is where I have the problem with. Like I said, I have read that work, and didn’t enjoy it, but I thought it was important given the people like Clinton, Ayers, and Obama who worship Alinsky like a deity.

I think we can achieve our objectives without resorting to their tactics. I believe there is Might to being Right, and we generally have the truth on our side, in my opinion.


59 posted on 02/13/2017 8:42:37 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: Kaslin; Lazmataz; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; dragonblustar; ...

Excellent read here.

Ping.


60 posted on 02/13/2017 8:43:56 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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