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(From February 28, 2013) Europe: How dare Jews build in Jerusalem!
http://www.israeltoday.co.il blog ^ | Thursday, February 28, 2013 | Ryan Jones

Posted on 02/11/2017 6:36:19 AM PST by kindred

The European Union has released a report that labels the very presence of Jews on the eastern side of Jerusalem as "provocative." According to the Europeans, the building of Jewish homes in these areas is the single greatest threat to peace in the region.

Titled "Jerusalem Report 2012," the survey asserts that the construction of homes for Jews on the eastern side of Jerusalem is a "systematic, deliberate and provocative" effort to make it "impossible for Jerusalem to become the capital of two states."

It should be noted that the report is not referring to small, isolated settlements, but rather to large Jewish neighborhoods like French Hill, Pisgat Zeev and Gilo (for those familiar with the city).

For Israelis, the whole thing is just absurd. That the return of an ancient people to the areas that made up their ancient heartland should pose a threat to peace simply doesn't make sense. Not to mention the fact that Jews have continuously lived in these areas, and especially in Jerusalem, non-stop for some 3,000 years. What the world doesn't like is that the Jews now exercise control in this Land.

As Alan Baker, an Israeli expert in international law, told Israel Today, the Jews are an indigenous people in this land. If the international community cannot accept this fact, then there is no basis for even starting peace talks.


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What the unbelieving world does not know about the plans the Lord Jesus Christ has for Israel is going to kill them, twice dead, plucked up by the roots and cast into the fire. The throne of the King of Kings, the God of Israel by Christ Jesus, is in Jerusalem, the "City of the great King", who is regathering the tribes Irael to their homeland for the final judgement of all pagan nations who hate God and His anointed one, Jesus Christ. He is God in the flesh and will return to Israel at the last day of the 7 year 21 tribulation judgements and destroy the invading gentile armies under their leader the anti Christ and the false prophet in the war known as Armageddon. Search the Scriptures, for they speak of the plabs of the God of Israel for all the earth. Jesus of Nazareth will rule over all the earth from His throne in Zion and all the tribes of Israel will receive the land God promised to Abraham and His descendents and Israel will be the leading nation on the earth for the millennial rule of Christ. After His rule over the earth, called the Kingdom Age and the Kingdom of Heaven, God the Father will burn the whole earth in an instant, create a new heaven and a new earth with anew Jerusalem on the earth and all saved people will be there and the others judged at the white throne judgement of Jesus Christ the righteous a Holy God and the lost will receive their just dues. One God, the God of Israel, one faith, the faith in Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and one baptism of fire by the Holy Spirit. These 3 are 1 God, the God of Israel. There is no other gods.
1 posted on 02/11/2017 6:36:19 AM PST by kindred
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To: kindred

One of the many laughable things about liberals is that they still think that Europe is cultured.

Islam is taking care of that problem.


2 posted on 02/11/2017 6:41:23 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: kindred

It was “Casino Night” that caused me to switch churches. We should pray for those who have lost their way.


3 posted on 02/11/2017 6:47:48 AM PST by Scooter100
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To: kindred

Sharing that land is the death of that land. Throughout history, superior cultures annex land and hold/defend it. Though their entire history is based on this concept, Europe remains willfully oblivious.


4 posted on 02/11/2017 6:55:02 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: Da Coyote

[Europe is cultured.]

And is being over run by 7th century illegal terroists bring in their religious Caliphate which makes Muslims owners of the non Muslims as slaves which they own and will murder, rape or burn. Sharia law demands it. Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.


5 posted on 02/11/2017 7:08:31 AM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour. Trump would help make America great again.)
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To: Scooter100

The entrance of the word of God gives light, the world continues in the darkness of lies and deceit that God does hate as He gave us His Scriptures to guide and profit us who know and believe the Word of God in the flesh, Jesus Christ or Lord and Savior.


6 posted on 02/11/2017 7:11:23 AM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour. Trump would help make America great again.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Europe is being overrun by the armies of Islamic terrorists the ignorant and arrogant politicians are importing for their own destruction. A shame indeed. Thank God for our President Trump who knows and will enforce our Constitutional laws that the left hates so much.


7 posted on 02/11/2017 7:15:45 AM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour. Trump would help make America great again.)
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To: Da Coyote

Jews still can’t live wherever we wont to.


8 posted on 02/11/2017 7:20:53 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: kindred

Thanks for giving me my new tagline.


9 posted on 02/11/2017 7:21:42 AM PST by Neidermeyer (تريني مسلم السلم)
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To: kindred

Amen.


10 posted on 02/11/2017 7:34:24 AM PST by Scooter100
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To: kindred

“Europe: How dare Jews build in Jerusalem”


Israel: “Europe, go phuck yourself. Oh, wait you are already doing that. Nevermind.”


11 posted on 02/11/2017 7:36:32 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: kindred

There is only ONE (1) G-d. Period. He, Himself, made that abundantly clear, many times. To say otherwise is nothing less than blasphemy.


12 posted on 02/11/2017 7:38:58 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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One God in 3 persons...”Hear oh Israel the Lord our Gods (Elohim) is one God”...the Lord said to my Lord, sit at thy right hand... [Yahwh, Christ, Holy Spirit]


13 posted on 02/11/2017 8:02:36 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

No, only One. You can’t count as G-d a supposed demi-god (the very existence of which is surprisingly like the pagan Greek beliefs of their “gods” mating with humans).


14 posted on 02/11/2017 8:09:44 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Besides, you got the Shema prayer wrong. Translated from the original Hebrew, it says, “Hear oh Israel, the L-rd your G-d is One.” “Elohaynu” (singular) not “Elohim (plural).”


15 posted on 02/11/2017 8:13:25 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr

Not correct. The Hebrew word is ‘elohiym (transliterated) which is literally, “Gods”. Here is another proof text for you...Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me. [Father, Son, Holy Spirit]


16 posted on 02/11/2017 8:52:55 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

One G-d, period. Any other position is blasphemy in a monotheistic religion.


17 posted on 02/11/2017 11:04:15 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr
Wrong again. One God in 3 persons [Father, Son, Holy Spirit]. Here is another proof text... Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created* the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters [Father, Spirit]...26 And God said, Let us make man in our image [Father, Son, Holy Spirit], after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
18 posted on 02/11/2017 12:05:39 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Ancesthntr; Jan_Sobieski

Was the prophet Isaiah a blasphemer, then?

In the passage cited in comment #16 (Isaiah 48:16), Isaiah spoke (wrote) of God, and God's Spirit, AND in regard to one who was "sent" who was neither God, or the Spirit of God ---not either of those for reason this who was "sent" was sent by both God, and His Spirit (according to inspired, even God-breathed Hebrew Scripture conveyed unto the Jews, and thus unto the rest of the world too) through the prophet Isaiah, or; perhaps as some translations into English would have it, the one who was "sent" was sent with the Spirit of God.

Either way there is place for God the Creator (the One God) his "Spirit" and still yet one more person.

Isaiah was a genuine prophet, wasn't he? It is my understanding that indeed he was, along with many others beyond only Moses, alone.

We cannot (should not?) assume that Isaiah was writing of himself when he wrote the portion found within that same passage of Scripture;

Instead, it is understood by a great many (including Jews of old, and unto this day also those called "Christian") that Isaiah was speaking of the same God who had appeared as burning bush (that "burned" but did not consume as earthly flame would) to Moses. The Great I Am

There is (does exist) the [Great] I Am, the God of the Hebrews, whom I take it, you accept as the One and only true God?

There also is his Spirit, which when encountered, heard, or in some way the communication unto man apportioned by God Himself, and delivered by way of His Spirit unto man, when that is understood by man (as God wills that to be, whenever chooses to whomever He chooses) is to hear/be illuminated/be informed by this same One God. It is not like the prophets of Israel spoke to God face-to-face as did Moses, but they were communicated with, and directed by God's own Spirit. Remember too... Moses was hid by God in cleft of the rock, seeing only the "back" of God (Exodus 33).

Are you with me, so far? God, the Creator, and His Holy "Spirit". Still One God -- not two.

Are we still good (have agreement thus far) on this?

Further, although the prophet Isaiah was (in my own view, anyway) truly anointed unto the office (of prophet to Israel) he was not writing of himself as Mashiach, or Moshiach. The prophet (albeit included among those 'sent from God' thus anointed by the Spirit of God to prophesy, nonetheless) instead was writing about a coming messiah (Moshiach, "moshiah" comes from the root Yod-Shin-Ayin, which means to help or save, deliverer, Savior).

Yes, I know...a link that I had provided buried among the rest, above commentary within this FR posting asserted (from Jewish 101 link such as;

"Belief in the eventual coming of the mashiach is a basic and fundamental part of traditional Judaism."

yet curiously enough provides no real foundation for the following (other than the say-so of rabbinical teachers, perhaps...and none of those I am aware of being on par with actual, genuine prophets of old);

But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.

Then there is this;

Heeeere's Moshiach: My Surreal Trip In the Orthodox Jewish Mitzvah Tank

Wicked Game
(Chris Isaak)

19 posted on 02/11/2017 2:07:40 PM PST by BlueDragon (my kinfolk had to fight off wagon burnin' scalp taking Comanches, reckon we could take on a few more)
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To: Ancesthntr

You correctly translated from Hebrew.


20 posted on 02/11/2017 8:01:49 PM PST by Read Write Repeat
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