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To: major-pelham
Unfortunately it’s upon us today. If POTUS CiC feels the 7 states are a natl security threat it’s dereliction of duty to obey the 9ths order from today, a high crime. If he defies the order, Unheard of brass, he’ll face calls for impeachment. It’s a bad box.

Seems like there are a few options for the President:

  1. Roll the dice and send it to USSC as currently constituted. If the SCOTUS decides to blatantly ignore the law and the Constitution, they will be the ones who have created the Constitutional crisis, and we should then prepare for a formal civil war.
  2. Get Gorsuch confirmed as quick as humanly possible, using the nuclear option, and then appeal to SCOTUS, in hopes of increasing the odds of a court victory.
  3. Disregard the 9th circuit's ruling without appealing, and face the storm. Again, prepare for civil war at some point.
  4. Accept the 9th's ruling without appealing, thereby allowing the judiciary to run completely roughshod over the Constitution, in which case the President will have abrogated his duty to uphold the Constitution. Ultimately, this, too, will lead to civil war.
If Gorsuch can't be confirmed quickly, using the nuclear option, the appeal should go to the SCOTUS immediately.

If the President takes his duty to uphold the Constitution seriously, he cannot delay.

MAKE NO MISTAKE: This is already a Constitutional crisis, created by the utterly lawless actions of judges who believe that they are above the law and the Constitution. These judges should be impeached.

I can think of no better person to be in the Oval Office for such a crisis. If SCOTUS fails to uphold the President's lawful EO, civil war is virtually guaranteed, sooner or later.

The only scenario which avoids civil war, IMHO, is for SCOTUS to uphold this EO. If the liberal members of the court would rather play politics with the lives of the American People than uphold the Constitution, then the time for civil war has already arrived.

I don't think that issuing additional immigration-related EO's makes any sense in this environment. We are already in a Constitutional crisis. The only question is whether the USSC is going to bail us out of it, or instead add fuel to the fire.

So my opinion is that this ruling should be appealed to SCOTUS immediately, and let the chips fall where they may.

This is some amazing lawlessness on the part of the judiciary, and, one way or another, it will not stand.

It's now up to the USSC to save this country from civil war...

37 posted on 02/09/2017 6:17:48 PM PST by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: sargon

I’ll admit I can’t soundly think this problem through today, too much other work. I’m glad we’ve the right guy at the helm to do so.

Perhaps an address to the Nation explaining the absurdity of extending Constitutional Rights to folks from Sudan, explaining the absurdity that a Judge in Seattle can shut down the country’s National Security apparatus and what that means for all of us. Further explain the Appellate process a little bit too to the citizenry where the 9th’s 3 judge panel totally ignored the Statue Trump operated under, ignored the rules on TRO’s, gave standing for paying for three Visas, extended the Bill of Rights to non-citizens, and declared that they could nullify any act of Congress or the Executive in peacetime, wartime or on Immigration.

That predicate might set the stage for disobeying. He has to disobey what they said, it’s too whacky. If he does disobey it plays into the libtard mantra that he’s a madman. But it’s the judges that are the madmen.


46 posted on 02/10/2017 4:06:10 AM PST by major-pelham
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