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First of all, do ANY of the H-1B workers come from any of the subject countries? I seriously doubt it but if there are any I would wager that the number is very small.
Secondly, the H-1B visa program can be ended and in fact there is a movement to do that to force US companies to hire American workers.
Thirdly, none of this has ANYTHING to do with the “ban” itself nor do I see how any of it is a “defense” to it. The law is very clear on it’s face and allows the president to do just what he did if he determines it’s appropriate.
Yeah. Redmond looks like Mumbai now.
Seriously? A State of the United States is arguing harm because...their companies can't screw American workers as hard as they have been?
>>Robart asked: “If I have a student who is admitted to [a state university], who is in a country who is now unable to come to the United States, enroll and pay tuition, is that not a direct financial harm?”
This is such a profoundly STUPID question that can be answered very easily.
1. The UW system and other state schools limit their enrollment. If a foreign student can’t enroll, another domestic or foreign student CAN.
2. Universities are not revenue and certainly not profit centers for the state. Tuition does not cover the full costs of education — not the property, not the ridiculous salaries of administration, and not even the prof’s salary.
3. Universities dismiss students for their own reasons (academic and other) all the time. Even if the loss of a foreign student would be a “direct” harm, the schools think almost universally in non-financial terms for most issues. If it did, they’d have systems where paying more money got you better grades or something similar.
1) To ensure an uninterrupted supply of relatively low-wage H-1B foreign workers for Microsoft and other state businesses;
Anybody remember the Disney animators debacle?
This EO is a big deal to BOTH sides, but especially the other side.
Other Washington-based companies, including Amazon, Expedia, and Starbucks, employ thousands of H-1B visa holders.”
The ancient Romans had a term for this under handed deceit from the rich and powerful.
Cui Bono ~ Who benefits from a crime
6 decades ago I was taking Latin II in high school.
I became very frustrated in spite of having an A in the course.
So, I asked my teacher what good was Latin, if I wasn’t going to be a doctor or lawyer?
She told me two Latin Words to remember, when things/issues were happening locally, county wise, state wise, nationwide and worldwide. Most people have no idea of what was happening, why and who was behind what was happening.
Those two words were cui bono!
cui bo·no?
Who stands, or stood, to gain (from a crime, issue/issues being pushed, might have been/be responsible for it)? Or who benefits?
Follow the money is part of the answer to any cui bono riddle.
So, who in America and the world benefits if we allow unvetted people and illegals to come and stay in America?
MS, Amazon, Starbucks, Expedia and the other 94 companies listed yesterday.
Conversely, who does not benefit?
Americans who are not elite and may be replaced by these Muslim excuse me employees from one of the 7 banned countries. Any of us who might be killed or maimed by one of these ROP so called refugees aka immigrants.
Right. There is a HUUUUUUUUGE surplus of programmers and other hi tech students from Somalia, Libya, Iraq, Sudan, etc.
My guess is the few from these countries have rather, ah, specialized computer skills - like arming bombs.
Right. There is a HUUUUUUUUGE surplus of programmers and other hi tech students from Somalia, Libya, Iraq, Sudan, etc.
My guess is the few from these countries have rather, ah, specialized computer skills - like arming bombs.
Using one f-ed up visa program, the H-1B, to justify another f-ed up visa program. The evil is piling up on top of evil.
Amazing how they had this loss of revenue figure so handy.
On the third issue, tax revenues, Washington State has not been able to come up with any specific number concerning the money it might lose under the Trump order. Its original lawsuit noted that, “In 2015, travelers from the Middle East spent approximately $96 million in Washington. This spending generated more than $6 million in state tax revenue and more than $2 million in local tax revenue.” Of course, “Middle East” is not at all synonymous with the seven countries affected by the Trump order, so there’s no telling what that actually means. But state officials suggest the loss, or at least prospective loss, is significant.
“We have claimed, very clearly, lost tax revenue,” Washington State Solicitor General Noah Purcell told Judge Robart in the courtroom. Indeed, the state argued that it is lost money, both in taxes and in direct spending by visitors, that gives Washington standing to challenge the Trump executive order nationally. “There’s no reason why the lost revenue of losing visitors who would come here and spend money should be insufficient to generate standing,” Purcell said.
A logical question to these open borders bozos is:
If these companies hired Americans at fair market prices?
Wouldn’t those employees yearly expenditures in the state of Washington more than equal their estimated losses re the banning of anyone from the 7 terror states named by the Obama administration?
At least this way we collect some taxes from the company and I'm not sure if we collect income taxes from the foreign employees.
The more important question, to my mind, is why Trump is even paying any attention to the hack judge.
“Why is Washington State mounting such a vigorous challenge to President Trump’s executive order temporarily suspending non-American entry from seven terrorism-plagued countries? ... a look at the state’s case suggests that, behind high-minded rhetoric about religious liberty and constitutional protections, there is a lot of money at stake.
“Judging by the briefs filed by Washington State, as well as statements made by its representatives, some of the state’s top priorities in challenging Trump are: 1) To ensure an uninterrupted supply of relatively low-wage H-1B foreign workers for Microsoft and other state businesses; 2) To ensure a continuing flow of high-tuition-paying foreign student visa holders”
A very revealing expose of what is going on in Washington State by Byron York.
Follow the money—and it leads to Microsoft, Starbucks, et al.
Thanks for posting.
SHUT IT ALL DOWN!!!
1. We need to ensure an uninterrupted supply of relatively low-wage H-1B foreign workers from Sudan and Syria
2. We need to ensure a continuing flow of high-tuition-paying foreign student visa holders from Somalia and Yemen etc.
3. We need to preserve the flow of tax revenues that results from those and other sources of folks from Iran and Iraq
These folks and ALL their supporters are bat shit crazy!
Ahhh - it’s not about “education” or “jobs”. It’s about protecting the revenue stream for the extravagantly over-priced education industrial complex, as well as the cheap labor stream for arrogant domestic net-jobs-destroying technologists.