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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Everybody should settle down. Trump issued an EO with significant adverse consequences for foreign travelers, and he did so without prior notification. The order was also overbroad, affecting people with valid visas and green cards who had traveled in good faith, believing that their U.S. legal documents were worth the paper they were printed on. This was an unforced error.

I understand that The Donald does not like to admit mistakes, and that his first reaction is to double down. This situation is an early test of whether he can resist that very dangerous impulse. I presume that no more than a few hundred people with valid papers are being caught in transit. If so, the thing to do is to get them cleared as quickly as possible so that they can complete their trips. Then tighten up the EO so that this does not happen again.

I am entirely in favor of reducing total numbers of legal immigrants, effectively controlling the borders against illegals, policing visa overstays, and heightened scrutiny of people named Mohammed. Etc., etc., etc. But policy changes should be prospective, not retroactive. The people involved in this situation have LEGAL U.S. papers. Those should be honored absent any negative information about particular individuals.

We have a war to win. Change the policy going forward. That is the whole ballgame. We jeopardize the main project by wrong-footing ourselves regarding a few dozen or a few hundred innocent people with, again, LEGAL papers who got caught in transit.

An overbroad EO has created an entirely needless controversy. Unforced error.

Or we can double down, and triple down, and quadruple down. Heck, my earliest traceable ancestor on These Sacred Shores arrived in 1653, as an indentured servant. I would probably make the cut, although if Fauxahontas sets herself up as judge, I might be too recent an arrival as well. How far back do people here really want to go if we start canceling legally obtained status? Don't forget that Donald himself is the son of an immigrant on one side, and the grandson of immigrants on the other. His American roots are pretty shallow. (Ted Cruz, whose native-born status he challenged, can trace family in America back to the 18th century.) Heck yes, let's get out a big eraser, say legal status can be arbitrarily canceled, and chop away. This could be fun.

78 posted on 01/29/2017 9:02:16 AM PST by sphinx
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To: sphinx

IF the damned SOB Jihadist “immigrants” don’t abandon
BLOWING US UP and RUNNING US OVER IN SEMIS or shooting
us with MACHINE GUNS, they’re going to face a lot worse
things than “inconvenient” delays at the airport. Can
YOU get through to them? Words didn’t do it for us; it
MIGHT for you.


82 posted on 01/29/2017 9:25:59 AM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16.)
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To: sphinx; Extremely Extreme Extremist

Sphinx wrote:

“...Ted Cruz, whose native-born status he challenged, can trace family in America back to the 18th century. ...”

Not on both sides of his family; mom was American & dad was Cuban.


84 posted on 01/29/2017 11:13:06 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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