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The Intelligent Pragmatism Behind Trump’s Refugee and Visa Suspension
The Last Refuge - The Conservative Treehouse ^ | January 28, 2017 | Sundance

Posted on 01/28/2017 2:56:21 PM PST by onyx

Many people are wondering why suspend visas relating to travel from: Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen. Why those countries specifically? What’s this all about.

The answer to that question and many other questions surrounding the recent executive actions of President Trump can be answered deliberately by looking forward, not backward.


Due mostly to the action of Russia, Islamic extremism is currently in retreating position from Syria. In the weeks and months to come, radical Islamic extremists of various factions will be facing even more defeats as their strongholds are recaptured. In addition to their current geographic locations, where will the extremist elements go in retreat? Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

Do not forget that between the November 8th, 2016 election and the January 27th, 2017 signing of these executive actions, President Trump and the incoming security/intelligence apparatus have been in contact with mid-east envoys who historically understand the predictable fall-back plans of the violent extremists within the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Brotherhood is the political face of the various extremist factions. International partners for the U.S. including King Abdullah (Jordan), Fattah Abdel el-Sisi (Egypt), and Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel), hold a time-tested understanding of where the extremist elements within Islam exist and where their moves can be predicted.

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You might remember how fluid the extremist elements were in their travels from Afghanistan (Iman al-Zawahiri’s al-Qaeda leadership), into Egypt (Mohammed al-Zawahiri – Brotherhood leadership), and then into Libya (Hillary’s “rebels”) and Syria (al-Nusra – McCain’s “rebels”) during the activity from 2010 through today.

The trails used by these extremist elements are well traveled, often predictable, and ultimately connected to ebbs and flows from their home region and network of support. The origin of many extremist travels begin in: Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

♦ BEGIN WITH THE END IN MIND – If a larger regional plan is going to defeat the extremist elements with the use of regional allies who know these affiliates best; and with General James Mattis at the tip of the spear; the forward review becomes a matter of simple pragmatic security precautions on visa suspensions from the areas of greatest concern.

As a member of the Trump national security transition team James Carafano outlined:

[…] As the space for the Islamic State, or ISIS, gets squeezed in the Middle East, the remains of the tens of thousands of foreign fighters will have to flow somewhere. Every nation, not just the U.S., believes they are most likely to flow to the countries cited in the order. That fact, and only that fact, is why those countries are included on the list. Indeed, when it comes to visa-vetting, that’s why the European Union has restrictions that are comparable to the United States. (link)

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President Trump is simply being pragmatic. He understands that when these extremists start losing they will fall back, regroup and lash out. The suspension of visa approvals from the predictable extremist territory they will occupy in retreat is simply Trump trying to protect the U.S. from the consequence of the extremist defeat.

Remember, President Trump already outlined what and why during his September 7th 2016 speech in Philadelphia when he outlined the strategy for Peace through Strength:

(TRANSCRIPT) […] In a Trump Administration, our actions in the Middle East will be tempered by realism. The current strategy of toppling regimes, with no plan for what to do the day after, only produces power vacuums that are filled by terrorists.

Gradual reform, not sudden and radical change, should be our guiding objective in that region.

We should work with any country that shares our goal of destroying ISIS and defeating Radical Islamic terrorism, and form new friendships and partnerships based on this mission. We now have an Administration, and a former Secretary of State, who refuse to say Radical Islamic Terrorism.

Immediately after taking office, I will ask my generals to present to me a plan within 30 days to defeat and destroy ISIS.

This will require military warfare, but also cyber warfare, financial warfare, and ideological warfare – as I laid out in my speech on defeating Radical Islamic terrorism several weeks ago.

Instead of an apology tour, I will proudly promote our system of government and our way of life as the best in the world – just like we did in our campaign against communism during the Cold War.

We will show the whole world how proud we are to be American.

At the same time, immigration security is a vital part of our national security.

We only want to admit people to our country who will support our values and love our people.

These are the pillars of a sound national security strategy. (continue reading)


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 30dayplan; aliens; immigration; middleeast; refugees; travelban; trump
I think Sundance is amazing! He's an all-around deep thinker and he has an extraordinary excellent memory and ability to link one piece to another to form a whole.

President Trump masterfully signed his recent E.O.'s in PERFECT ORDER according to his larger plan.

President Trump was thinking ahead while he was campaigning. He already knew he was going to appoint General Mattis and already knew he was going to request a 30 Day plan to defeat ISIS, so you see the travel ban from those 7 countries and the 30 day Plan go hand-in-hand!

President Trump is not about to allow the fragmented "refugees" to become OUR refugees when ISIS is defeated. They belong in their own countries to help rebuild their own countries.

1 posted on 01/28/2017 2:56:21 PM PST by onyx
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To: onyx

Agree. They can not rebuild their countries if the are in the US and Europe. Why would they go back.

2 posted on 01/28/2017 3:03:59 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: onyx

Each of the countries listed is effectively operating with no government with the exception of Iraq which has declared itself our enemy and is the major sponsor of terroris. There is no paperwork available in these countries to vet, nor any effective government to assist in the process.

I agree. Sundance is an extraordinarily insightful mind. He also has an uncanny ability to use current fact to anticipate future directions. IMO, he entirely laid bare the establishment plan to march to the GOP nomination with Jeb. Then he updated with lesser candidates as Trump knocked them off one by one.

3 posted on 01/28/2017 3:09:46 PM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: onyx

Newt Gingrich: The left should be scared to death after Trump’s first week

By Newt Gingrich

The elite left and their propagandists in the media are already in hysterics over President Trump’s first week in office, but for most Americans there are no surprises here.
The president is doing exactly what he has said he would do for the last two years on the campaign – immediately get to work focusing on jobs, immigration and shrinking government. And guess what: He’s going to continue.

The secret meaning of Donald Trump’s revolutionary first 100 hours

By Richard Manning

4 posted on 01/28/2017 3:11:57 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Obama's greatest legacy to America/Americans was the election of President Trump!)
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To: Grampa Dave

5 posted on 01/28/2017 3:23:15 PM PST by onyx (DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: onyx

This is a non-issue. Only US citizens have a “right” to enter the US. For anyone else, it is a privilege we extend to who we choose to extend it to.

Immigration policy should serve the interests of citizens first, foremost, and always.

6 posted on 01/28/2017 3:25:22 PM PST by marron
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To: onyx

I have been predicting for some time that we will see:

U.S. leading Russia with airpower and intelligence plus the Syrian and Iraqi armies plus the Kurds vs. ISIS and the rest of the ISIS wannabes.

I think I know how that will turn out. That report Trump asked for in 30 days is just 22 days away. I would expect to see some action soon after that. The Dems will scream. McCain will scream. Lindsey Baby will scream. Too bad for them. Trump will do the right thing. Expect some high level get togethers with the Russians.

7 posted on 01/28/2017 3:44:55 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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To: xzins

Exactly! There isn’t a way to vet the people who need ‘extreme vetting’.

8 posted on 01/28/2017 4:29:34 PM PST by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: jazminerose

I agree. Makes perfect sense not to admit to our country people we know nothing about.

9 posted on 01/28/2017 5:09:29 PM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: xzins

Correct and after General Mattis and our military stomps ISIS to death, those countries will have even more refugees filling their lands without any legitimate paperwork to vet!

10 posted on 01/28/2017 6:25:59 PM PST by onyx (DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: marron
President Trump can establish any arbitrary standard for the allowed or preferred U.S. immigration process, he deems in the nation’s interest. President Obama did exactly the same thing with the reverse ideological intent.

In fact, President Trump could, by the constitutional power of his office, completely shut down the entire immigration and naturalization process, halting any further emigration to the U.S. permanently.

[…] Peter Spiro, a professor at Temple University Beasley School of Law, said Trump’s action would likely be constitutional because the president and Congress are allowed considerable deference when it comes to asylum decisions.

“It’s a completely plausible prioritization, to the extent this group is actually being persecuted,” Spiro said. (read more)

No person outside of the United States has a “RIGHT” to come to, or live in the United States of America. Guest visitation (Visa approval) is a privilege, and emigration is entirely a structure of policy controlled by the executive branch of the U.S. through the Department of State.


11 posted on 01/28/2017 6:31:30 PM PST by onyx (DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: onyx

Correction on my post: “with the exception of Iraq” should be “with the exception of Iran”

12 posted on 01/28/2017 7:18:26 PM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: onyx
President Donald J. Trump at work:

Previous person at "work"

13 posted on 01/28/2017 7:35:51 PM PST by spokeshave (In the Thatch Weave,..Trump's Wing Man is Truth)
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To: spokeshave
GMTA! I was busy compiling a similar posting for our FReepathon thread.

14 posted on 01/28/2017 7:56:56 PM PST by onyx (DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: Grampa Dave

I agree . Good post.

President Trump done more good for America in a few days than politicians have for the last 100 years.

Politicians talk a good game but only do terrible things against America.
Every day of every year politicians have
1. Let in more third world immigrants into the USA
2.more government regulations
3. More debt
4.allowed countries like Mexico China to steal our
5. More loss of freedom
6. More taxes.
7. More taking in of refugees
8. More government

I have a many more but no time to write them all


15 posted on 01/28/2017 8:07:26 PM PST by Democrat_media (Yellen raising rates with only 1.8% growth to hurt Trump send USA to depression)
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