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Lawmaker: Criminalizing Abortion Would Force Women to be ‘More Personally Responsible’
Texas Observer ^ | 1/23/17 | Lyanne A. Guarecuco

Posted on 01/24/2017 12:17:15 PM PST by Timpanagos1

The Republican lawmaker behind a controversial bill — which could make it legal to charge women and providers with murder for an abortion — defended the proposal by saying completely removing access to the procedure would “force” women to be “more personally responsible” with sex.

State Representative Tony Tinderholt, of Arlington, said in an interview with the Observer that, if passed, the bill would reduce the number of pregnancies “when they know that there’s repercussions.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: prolife
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To: colorado tanker
"Although many don’t realize it or realize it too late, the woman is also a victim of losing her baby."



Horse Shit.

21 posted on 01/24/2017 12:46:01 PM PST by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: Timpanagos1

I want abortion criminalized with FEDERAL penitentiary time, and I want every Planned Parenthood abortionary burned down to the ground, and every one turned into a shrine to those who were murdered, each one like the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, except the only war was Progressives versus the unborn. And on top of that, a Constitutional amendment recognizing personhood of the unborn.


22 posted on 01/24/2017 12:49:45 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
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To: Lorianne

“It takes two to conceive. I’ve had it with this never being pointed out.”

DNA? You should know that men are held responsible everyday for kids where it is proven through DNA that the kid isn’t theirs.

Also as far as taking two, of course it does. But only women get a choice.
If a man says he doesn’t want ANY risk of being a parent, he is told “keep your pants zipped”.
If a woman says she doesn’t want ANY risk of being a parent, she is told she may abort. Completely up to her.

Bottom line, a woman is assumed to have a right to a sex life and still avoid the financial risk of parenthood. A man is told to be celibate or accept the consequences.

I see nothing wrong with women having to live with the same legal status men do.


23 posted on 01/24/2017 12:50:20 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: sodpoodle

“The pregnant woman, the sperm donor and the abortionist.”

Nope. A male has zero say in whether or not she aborts. He can beg, bribe, offer to marry, offer to raise the child and let her walk away, etc.
But she has full unlimited say on the matter and he has none. So charging a male is insane and an example of feminist logic.


24 posted on 01/24/2017 12:52:47 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: colorado tanker
Although many don’t realize it or realize it too late, the woman is also a victim of losing her baby.

That's like saying that a person who killed his parents is a victim because he's an orphan.

25 posted on 01/24/2017 12:53:39 PM PST by So Cal Rocket (Task 1: Accomplished, Task 2: Hold them Accountable!)
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To: Timpanagos1

This is a stupid publicity stunt, nothing more.


26 posted on 01/24/2017 12:59:32 PM PST by WatchungEagle
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To: Timpanagos1

IMHO, the best approach overall is to change hearts and educate minds.

As I stated on another thread, one reason abortion continues to be legal in this country is because the word itself is a safe, non-descriptive euphemism masking the reality of a horrendous and barbaric act.

If a pro-life group could regularly broadcast - without restriction - a primetime program showing exactly what happens during an abortion, we might sicken enough people, and change enough minds to stop this carnage in less than a generation.

I’m not sure what prevents the airing of such a program. Perhaps Trump with his new FCC head would remove any restrictions.

Something to lobby for, something to pray about...


27 posted on 01/24/2017 1:11:04 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Timpanagos1

I heard that once contraceptives were legalized,

then all our “problems” were going to disappear?

/sarc


28 posted on 01/24/2017 1:17:31 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: DesertRhino

A child is the responsibility of the two people who create it. That’s as equal as it can get.


29 posted on 01/24/2017 1:22:28 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: DesertRhino

you are exactly right and that is why he should be involved in any decision to abort HIS child. He has to prove his parental rights and DNA might be the only way. Once proven he can stop the abortion or approve it.

If he stops it -then he becomes the father. If he approves of an abortion, he is as evil as the woman.


30 posted on 01/24/2017 1:28:27 PM PST by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: PGR88

Please. It “liberates” BOTH. And everyone knows it.


31 posted on 01/24/2017 1:30:36 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Lorianne

One’s responsibility is imposed by nature; the other’s by civilization and it’s understanding of morality.


32 posted on 01/24/2017 1:31:30 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Lorianne

I agree. Men are half of the equation. Making women the only person accountable is stupid, and wrong. Women are not receptacles for seminal fluids and a good time.

How about a moral decision in the beginning, if you think it is wrong, then why are you conducting yourself in such a fashion. I do not accept “boys will be boys” as an excuse. Men should be men, and responsible!

This legislator is a dolt.

FLAME AWAY!!

Gunner


33 posted on 01/24/2017 1:36:45 PM PST by weps4ret (Republicans are suffering from Testicular Atrophy!!!)
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To: Timpanagos1

Not just women! This lawmaker is silly. It is the pimp boyfriends who do not want to be paying pregnancy support and thus push women to abortion who should be pursued first along with the nasty doctors getting their hands on her. Prosecution of woman should come very last.


34 posted on 01/24/2017 2:08:59 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: weps4ret

I 100% agree


35 posted on 01/24/2017 2:09:47 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: weps4ret

So, in your opinion God is stupid and wrong?

Women can get pregnant if they choose to participate in certain adult activities.... Deal with it.

You’re right about morals. You just need to think it through to the logical conclusion.


37 posted on 01/24/2017 4:53:03 PM PST by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: Hugh the Scot

Nope, would not say the Divine is stupid or wrong.

Divine gave us free will, was that stupid or wrong? Half of the choices belong to the male of the species, which means being responsible.

My conclusions are accurate.

Must be a Campbell.

Gunner


38 posted on 01/24/2017 5:09:34 PM PST by weps4ret (Republicans are suffering from Testicular Atrophy!!!)
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To: weps4ret

Your confusions are wrong. Life ain’t fair.

HALF of the choices aren’t given to men. Only half of the choices that have already been made by the woman...

Must be an Argyll.


39 posted on 01/24/2017 5:20:30 PM PST by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: Hugh the Scot

Nay Jimmie, a Donald. Campbell’s are na permitted sleep overs. Ye kin?

Gunner


40 posted on 01/24/2017 5:40:41 PM PST by weps4ret (Republicans are suffering from Testicular Atrophy!!!)
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