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California schools may face cuts amid skyrocketing pension costs
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | January 23, 2017 | Jill Tucker

Posted on 01/24/2017 7:03:17 AM PST by george76

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To: george76

Keeping their fat pension in place is for the children.


41 posted on 01/24/2017 8:21:05 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: george76
a crisis driven by skyrocketing worker pension costs that are expected to force districts to divert billions of dollars from classrooms into retirement accounts, education officials said.

Math is hard, especially when things don't add up.

42 posted on 01/24/2017 8:22:27 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: george76
a crisis driven by skyrocketing worker pension costs that are expected to force districts to divert billions of dollars from classrooms into retirement accounts, education officials said.

Math is hard, especially when things don't add up.

43 posted on 01/24/2017 8:23:34 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: george76

What’s wrong? I thought illegal aliens were supposed to be an economic gold mine.


44 posted on 01/24/2017 8:24:52 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Rusty0604

I worked for an electric utility owned by the state. It was the same mentality. We had bureaucrats supervising other bureaucrats, and guys that, no one knew what they did, and when they retired, their jobs were not replaced. One guy who is a supervisor who naps in the afternoon. He maintains his position by his political skills.

As an electric utility, when the fiber optic boom took place, the utility owned valuable rights of way. It took them a couple of years to debate whether they could sell valuable rights of way for joint usage, and therefore make money. However, they were chartered to run an electric utility, and not to be a profit making entity. Would have not cost the state a cent; pure profit. Senior management acted like they were debating the theory of relativity, or which came first, the chicken or egg and never could figure out if they could make money on selling rights of way on electric power line easements. Meanwhile the fiber optic companies found other ROWs and the utility ROWs became worthless.

It was a safe and secure job, so long as I knew my place, but frustrating.


45 posted on 01/24/2017 9:03:50 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie ( Agenda driven news is fake news.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

The union had a thirty page instruction pamphlet for janitors on the proper way to sweep the floor. I once saw another instructional from the government about as many pages long on making brownies.
I once told the General Manager at the union that if the managers (excluding me ) had been in charge of the Lewis and Clark Expedition we would be speaking French now.


46 posted on 01/24/2017 9:26:06 AM PST by Rusty0604 (bc)
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To: Rusty0604

Just, wow!


47 posted on 01/24/2017 9:29:54 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie ( Agenda driven news is fake news.)
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To: Daffynition

This is why it was brilliant for the Post Office to pay pensions for 75 years the day a new employee starts. After all said and done, the post office will be the only department standing after America goes bankrupt. I know some think funding future pensions is dumb but I think it is brilliant. I think if companies and government agencies had to do this starting in the 1950’s, we’d be a better country. Now everything is screwed and we are heading towards bankruptcy if not worse.


48 posted on 01/24/2017 9:43:20 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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Well dangle some money in front of a ‘rat and they go berserk spending.


49 posted on 01/24/2017 9:44:57 AM PST by Daffynition ( "The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: Daffynition

Republicans are just as bad. Bush added 5 trillion to our debt. Obama 9 trillion. Both unacceptable just because Republicans are a bit smaller. We should stop all spending for 1 year except military, Intelligence and that is it. I wouldn’t even mind skipping one year of military academies. That won’t hurt anything. What will hurt us is the continued spending and then dying on the vine.


50 posted on 01/24/2017 9:49:56 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: george76

So when the teacher’s and the politicians say the new taxes they want are for schools, roads, infrastructure or the “children” they mean THEM!

You and the children mean nothing to THEM.
Just gimme more money for their very high pension.


51 posted on 01/24/2017 11:20:24 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: george76

A state legislature is not required to recognize the folly of a previous legislature. It’s called sovereignty. Cut the pensions, via appropriate legislation, to the point where the pensions are manageable for the state.


52 posted on 01/24/2017 12:41:48 PM PST by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
The government needs to get out of the pension business.

Originally the government paid much less but promised job security security and guaranteed pensions. The military was paid much less and attracted people because of job security and retirement. That was workable when a recruit received $68.00 a month, now not so much.

53 posted on 01/24/2017 2:13:14 PM PST by itsahoot (Five words I want to hear, I will build that wall.)
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To: WMarshal
Maybe this is the reason Cali is trying to secede

Anyone that thinks the US government will give away sovereignty of half the Western coastline is insane.

54 posted on 01/24/2017 2:18:44 PM PST by itsahoot (Five words I want to hear, I will build that wall.)
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To: george76
cut library, music, art, band and sports...

cut them....

and let the govt workers kids get the shaft from their own parents, as it should be....

they didn't give a damn about the children when they coerced TPTB to grant such ridiculous and undeserved pensions..

it will hurt the young kids, but that's what these so called caring adults want.....

55 posted on 01/24/2017 11:46:12 PM PST by cherry
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**cut library, music, art, band and sports...**

Brilliant idea. These happen to be the hooks that keep a large percentage of kids interested in school.

Posting and drinking don't mix


56 posted on 01/25/2017 12:03:36 AM PST by Daffynition ( "The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: george76

OHHP. This article is the Democrat-prompted but unofficial “official” California All-State BOHICA notice regarding the upcoming multi-billion dollar statewide school bond initiative that will appear on the next ballot.

Wonder whether they’ll use the same old photos of the same old broken school restroom toilet that they still never fixed with all the billions they got in all the several past bond measures floated both locally and statewide.

No matter. Even if they get billions this time, next time they’ll STILL speak and act like paupers. It’s a state of mind problem (liberalism); not a money problem.

https://ballotpedia.org/School_bond_elections_in_California.


57 posted on 01/26/2017 10:34:53 AM PST by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: george76

teachers are not covered under calpers.. they are covered under calstrs


58 posted on 01/26/2017 6:47:57 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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