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War Declared: The Intelligence Community v Trump
The New American ^ | 14 January 2017 | C. Mitchell Shaw

Posted on 01/14/2017 1:00:59 PM PST by VitacoreVision

In his press conference Wednesday, President-elect Donald Trump responded to recent attacks against him by the intelligence community by saying that leaking “information that turned out to be so false and fake” was “something that Nazi Germany would have done.” His remarks were in reference to an unsubstantiated “dossier” added to the intelligence community’s report of alleged Russian interference in recent U.S. elections.

But how culpable is the intelligence community in its handling of this dossier? Do intel's actions rise to the level of “something that Nazi Germany would have done,” as Trump charges? And do those actions include not only fake intel against Trump but also giving him “fake briefings” (more on this below)?  

The intelligence community had previously released first one, and then another, report alleging that Russian president Vladimir Putin directed a campaign to influence the U.S. presidential election for the purpose of discrediting Hillary Clinton and assuring Trump’s election. Last week, the intelligence community appended a spurious document purported to be a “dossier” of Trump’s connections with Russia to the most recent of those classified reports. The document — which even Director of National Intelligence James Clapper admitted has not been verified — alleges that Russian agents have compromising information on Trump that could be used to blackmail him, including a litany of freakish sexual misbehaviors supposedly committed by Trump while in Moscow.

Trump immediately denied the allegations of the less-than-reliable document and has maintained that denial. In his press conference Wednesday, the president-elect took the opportunity to publicly address his attackers, saying:

I think it was disgraceful. Disgraceful that the intelligence agencies allowed any information that turned out to be so false and fake out. I think it's a disgrace, and I say that's something that Nazi Germany would have done — and did do. I think it's a disgrace that information that was false and fake and never happened got released to the public.

The intelligence community, which had not only maligned Trump by including the unsubstantiated and inflammatory document in its official report, but had claimed to have provided him with a two-page synopsis of it (which Trump and others deny), wasted no time in responding to Trump’s remarks. The Los Angeles Times quoted Glenn Carle, a former senior CIA officer who spent more than two decades as a spy, as saying, “Kill the messenger and divert attention: That is the only trick Donald Trump has, and he does it viciously.” Carle added, “The relationship is essentially damaged beyond the possibility of repair before it has even begun.”

It may well be true that “the relationship is essentially damaged beyond the possibility of repair,” but blaming that damage on Trump’s reaction to his mistreatment at the hands of professional liars and propagandists is a classic case of confusing cause and effect.

Any objective and informed person looking at this case would have little trouble placing the blame on the intelligence community. Consider the following points:

• The unsubstantiated document that is purportedly a “dossier” of Trump’s connections to, control by, and misbehavior in Russia is not only so far-fetched that it stretches the imagination past the breaking point, it is also rife with misspellings, errors, and poor grammar.

• After including the document — despite all of the above reasons to doubt its veracity — in the official report, the intelligence community failed to keep the classified full version of the document from leaking to the press.

• Director of National Intelligence James Clapper admitted in a statement that the intelligence community “has not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable.”

• Clapper — who famously lied to Congress under oath and on camera in March 2013, when he said that the NSA does not collect any data on American citizens — and other intelligence officials claimed to have given Trump a two-page summary of the document, but Trump, a member of his transition team, and a government source all say that never happened.

It appears the intelligence community, which has no love for Trump, is working to delegitimize his presidency before it even begins. In fact, the intelligence agencies’ actions may actually be following the advice offered by former Senator Harry Reid (D–Nev.) when he said the best way for them to deal with Trump would be to “Fake it, pretend you’re doing a briefing, but you can’t give the guy any information.” Reid’s comments were made in July when he was still the Senate minority leader, and Trump was a the GOP nominee in the presidential race. In a video interview, Reid told the Huffington Post:

How would the CIA and the other intelligence agencies brief this guy? How could they do that? I would suggest to the intelligence agencies, if you’re forced to brief this guy, don’t tell him anything, just fake it, because this man is dangerous. Fake it, pretend you’re doing a briefing, but you can’t give the guy any information.

Reid went on to say about Trump, “This guy, he’s part of a foreign power. We knew he liked Putin before this, but this is quite ridiculous.”

Ah, the obligatory reference to Russia that has played such an important role in this poorly scripted drama.

Reid repeated his advice in another video interview — this time with CNN correspondent Manu Raju, saying, “What I’ve suggested is now — because he’s the nominee for the party and he’s entitled to briefings from the CIA for example — I said publicly, ‘Give him fake briefings. Pretend you’re briefing him. Don’t tell him anything that you don’t want to get out.'” Raju asked Reid, “But as the Republican nominee, isn’t he entitled to get those briefings?” Reid responded, “Give him fake briefings.” Raju asked, “What does that even mean?” Undeterred, Reid answered, “It means they’ll tell him stuff; he won’t know the difference.” With obvious shock, Raju said, “You’re basically telling the intelligence community to lie to him!”

Reid did what so many liberals do without even realizing it. He shifted gears and pretended that he never suggested any such thing. “No. No, you don’t lie. I’m not going to lie to you, that’s why I have to tell you everything.”

Sen. Harry Reid: Give Trump fake CIA intel briefings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aPIIRQmvPM

It now appears that whether or not the intelligence community lied to Trump in his briefings as the nominee, it is certainly lying both to and about him now. If — and this is not an if — the relationship between Trump and the intelligence community is damaged beyond repair, it is because the intelligence community is a dysfunctional group of liars and manipulators, and Trump — whatever his other faults may be — is standing up to them.

As this writer noted in a previous article:

From their perspective, Trump's enemies in politics, the intelligence community, and media have good reason to hate and fear him. For instance, he has promised to derail the globalist agenda of so-called free trade so loved by political insiders on both sides of the aisle, has said he will shake up the intelligence community — which he has accused (both before and since this recent debacle) of corruption and ineptitude, and has blasted the liberal mainstream media as tools of the establishment. Now, all three are coming after him with everything they've got.

But as his “Nazi Germany” remarks go to show, Trump appears ready to give as good as he gets. Which is a good thing for America since there are only two possibilities in this case: The intelligence community is so stupid that they can't tell what to include in an official report; or they are so corrupt that they intentionally included spurious content for their own political purposes. Neither of those possibilities is acceptable.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cia; ciarico; ciavsthepeople; corruptcia; fakeintelligence; islaminside; knownfraud; nsa; nsarico; nsavsthepeople; obamarico; seditioninside; treasoninside; trump; trumpwar; yellowintelligence
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Do the U.S. intelligence community's actions rise to the level of "something that Nazi Germany would have done," as Trump charges? And do those actions include not only fake intel against Trump but also giving him "fake briefings"?
1 posted on 01/14/2017 1:01:00 PM PST by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

This isn’t an intelligence community. It’s a stupidity community.

Trump. Broom. Sweep clean.


2 posted on 01/14/2017 1:02:03 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Intelligence coup-munity. They wanted a silent coup.


3 posted on 01/14/2017 1:04:48 PM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: King Moonracer

This is the yackiest attempt at a silent coup I ever saw.

Face it. Whatever Ronald Reagan had for Teflon, Donald Trump is sporting the military grade upgrade of it.


4 posted on 01/14/2017 1:06:39 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yep.

The heads of all of the intelligence agencies have been politicized. Trump needs to take a hatchet to them.


5 posted on 01/14/2017 1:06:40 PM PST by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: VitacoreVision

The left applies their “community” label, but the problem most likeliest with top Obama sycophants. The rank and file will likely cheer when they are removed.


6 posted on 01/14/2017 1:07:50 PM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: 2111USMC

Sucks to be in their position.

But the politicization has to go, if he wants to see honesty when he looks through their periscope.


7 posted on 01/14/2017 1:08:21 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: VitacoreVision

The Intelligence community is split between leftists shills and more conservative patriots who support Trump. As the chief executive, Trump must purge these agencies of leftist ideologues or he will eventually pay the price.


8 posted on 01/14/2017 1:11:18 PM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: jdsteel

It’s possible this is mostly a management problem.

CIA and NSA need to be management guided, because they are a closed society by necessity of secrecy. The hapless oar rowers couldn’t do anything like internetwork to try to face corporate issues.


9 posted on 01/14/2017 1:11:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: VitacoreVision

“Clapper — who famously lied to Congress under oath and on camera in March 2013, when he said that the NSA does not collect any data on American citizens...”

It depends on your definition of “any”.


10 posted on 01/14/2017 1:12:53 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>It’s possible this is mostly a management problem.

>CIA and NSA need to be management guided, because they are a closed society by necessity of secrecy. The hapless oar rowers couldn’t do anything like internetwork to try to face corporate issues.

The NSA has been on Trump’s side since day 1. It’s the CIA that’s been working against him. They’ve always been a creature of the state department and since the end of the cold war they’ve dump everyone who wasn’t a leftist hack. Personally I’d like to see Trump disband the CIA in favor of a expanded military intelligence instead. Secondly we need to get the kill drone program away from them ASAP. They could use that stuff in America. Only the military should have that type of power.


11 posted on 01/14/2017 1:15:35 PM PST by RedWulf (TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!)
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To: King Moonracer

Intelligence coup-munity. They wanted a silent coup.
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That plan went up in smoke so they have gone postal.


12 posted on 01/14/2017 1:15:38 PM PST by iontheball
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To: HiTech RedNeck

As some wag, maybe it was the late philosopher George Carlin once said; “One of the biggest oxymorons of all times, is, ‘Military Intelligence’”.


13 posted on 01/14/2017 1:15:55 PM PST by Tucker39 (In giving us The Christ, God gave us the ONE thing we desperately NEEDED; a Savior.)
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War Declared: The Intelligence Community v Trump

Trump will be wiping out this nest of vipers shortly. Going to be a good show.

14 posted on 01/14/2017 1:20:24 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: VitacoreVision

Dear President-elect Trump, please strengthen your personal security to the max!


15 posted on 01/14/2017 1:22:03 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Fact is the vast majority of what the intel community does it doesn’t need to do or do it they it is done.

Trump should declassify most of it and cancel the rest. Very little is actually sensitive information. These pricks hide behind classifications while wasting our money.


16 posted on 01/14/2017 1:22:48 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: VitacoreVision

The CIA is no longer ‘the intelligence community’ since it has been transformed into a DNC lies and wet works club under Brennan. And being run by an Enemy of The Republic, it is extremely dangerous. Murder inc needs to be shut down and defunded.


17 posted on 01/14/2017 1:37:34 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: VitacoreVision

Intelligence community failed to keep the classified full version of the document from leaking to the press.

Another one of Obama’s last actions going to be very costly.


18 posted on 01/14/2017 1:59:56 PM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: VitacoreVision
Did NAZI Germany use falsified news and "Intelligence" to sway the world against opposing Anschluss, occupation of Czechoslovakia, and invasion of Poland?

Yes.

Did NAZI Germany use those same tools to criminalize Jews and intellectuals?

Yes.

Fake Briefings?

Since I believe Trump's bitch with the Intel community is with its obviously politicized executives and NOT with rank and file...I guess it remains to be seen and depends bigly on what president The Donald does upon taking the office.

19 posted on 01/14/2017 5:38:01 PM PST by norton
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To: VitacoreVision

Interesting how this article quotes Harry Reid a lot.

Just remember this...

Harry Reid Says He ‘Did What Was Necessary’ By Lying About Mitt Romney’s Tax Returns

“Romney didn’t win, did he?” he told CNN’s Dana Bash.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/21/reid-i-did-what-was-necessary-by-lying-about-romneys-tax-returns/


20 posted on 01/14/2017 5:46:32 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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