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To: Engraved-on-His-hands; Read Write Repeat; Mr. M.J.B.

[[Once again, I am not taking issue with Israel’s actions. My point was to make clear that the statement in post #20 (”If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first.”) is not found in the Old Testament (or in the New) as some might have wrongly assumed.]]

Once again you are looking at things short sighted .
Go back and read the Old Testament and you will see that it does tell you when it is proper to kill someone . The New Testament also comments on men providing for the families , security is part of that providing too.

God blessed us with a conscience and common sense.
For example you know a guy has a truck loaded full of explosives and chemical weapons and you know his intention is to murder a whole bunch people with it. You sit and do nothing to stop him and you are basically aiding him in killing a bunch of innocent people .

Lets look another situation . I’m in a mall and some one comes in and starts shooting people . Guess what ? I’m going to shoot him because I’m not going let him murder a bunch of innocent people if I can stop him . Saving lives is biblical and God not consider that mass murder my neighbor.

Another example ... I have someone trying to break into my house during the day , I call for the police and try to get my family out of the house and away from him.
That same thief tries that at night I’m putting a bullet in him and calling the police to bring a body bag. I can’t see what is going around the dark and he is not getting in my house to hurt my family . It’s a biblical stance too , go read the Old Testament and this situation is noted in their minus the gun .
This happened to me to . I was alone with my daughter when a man tried to come in window . I hit him multiple times with a baseball bat , I was not letting him in my house. Had he made it through the window I would have killed him , I my a gun in my pocket and I know how to use it .

You should read this this article
It’s very biblical both Old and New Testament wise
The article is quite fitting to the situation we have been talking about too.

https://myonlycomfort.com/2017/01/03/dealing-with-abusive-men/


154 posted on 01/13/2017 8:28:06 PM PST by Lera ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: Lera
Sigh....Again: I'm not arguing against the idea that there may be times that you would be justified in stopping someone from killing someone by killing him first. What I'm saying is that the quotation is not in the Bible. It just isn't. This isn't rocket surgery or brain science. Either the words are in there or they are not. The simple answer: They are not. Period. If they are, give me book, chapter, and verse. But you can't.

We need to be careful to distinguish between the actual Word of God and our opinions and traditions concerning the Word of God, no matter how loved or logical our opinions and traditions may be.
155 posted on 01/13/2017 8:57:23 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2020!)
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To: Lera

Lera, how horrible that happened to you and glad your family made it through okay.

Thank you for contributing some sanity to this thread. :)


182 posted on 01/14/2017 7:34:32 PM PST by Read Write Repeat
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