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Democrats Will Lose a Wall Brawl
Commentary ^ | JAN. 6, 2017 | NOAH ROTHMAN

Posted on 01/06/2017 4:41:52 PM PST by SJackson

When it looked like Republicans would nominate to the presidency a man who, at least on paper, was the candidate most likely to lose to Hillary Clinton in November, it was the right’s immigration hawks who earned the harshest recriminations. I joined a once voluminous group of right-leaning authors who imprudently castigated proponents of a hard line on immigration for scuttling a bipartisan immigration reform bill and turning 2016 into a referendum on their view. Clinton’s inevitable victory would ensure that her vision for immigration reform—amnesty without additional border security—would be foisted upon Americans. I was right about the referendum but wrong about the verdict. The immigration hawks won it.

When it comes to immigration, Donald Trump was uncharacteristically specific. He campaigned on some pretty clear themes and directed his subordinates to craft white papers expounding on his preferences. Foremost among those was “the wall.” On the stump, this was an applause line; an impenetrable partition that grew in height by 10 feet per doubt. Behind the scenes, “the wall” was shorthand for a variety of border security provisions. To the extent that mandates are defined as that which a president can get done, Trump has one to build “the wall.” A border barrier is not only feasible but the due of Trump’s victorious faction of the Republican Party.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alien; buildthatwall; immigration; outedleftist; wall

1 posted on 01/06/2017 4:41:52 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

The Wall will stand for decades, perhaps centuries.

It is crucial—both NOW, and for the FUTURE when another globalist (ugh!) wins the White House.


2 posted on 01/06/2017 4:55:54 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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To: SJackson

An article just a few spots up

TMZ: Obama Family Building a Wall Around New Home
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3511585/posts


3 posted on 01/06/2017 4:59:42 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: SJackson

Vilhelm DaCommie-o installed a fence around the NYC peeps’ house.


4 posted on 01/06/2017 5:06:10 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: SJackson

Don’t count on it.Never underestimate the power of the backstabbers McCain, Graham, Flake and Murkowski to stab you in the back.


5 posted on 01/06/2017 5:11:06 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: SJackson

I joined a once voluminous group of right-leaning authors who imprudently castigated proponents of a hard line on immigration
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He admits to being a shill for the Cheap Labor Express against what was best for the nation.


6 posted on 01/06/2017 5:13:03 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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To: amnestynone
Don’t count on it.Never underestimate the power of the backstabbers McCain, Graham, Flake and Murkowski to stab you in the back.

Flake and Murkowski are both up in 2018, and will be primaried by serious challengers.

I'd worry more about McConnell and Paul Ryan.

Fortunately, Trump has the 2006 law to work off of to get started.
7 posted on 01/06/2017 5:16:35 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: SJackson

Yep. People want the wall.


8 posted on 01/06/2017 5:17:01 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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To: amnestynone

Trump doesn’t need Congress. They passed legislation to secure the border more than 10 years ago but W and 0 never enforced it.


9 posted on 01/06/2017 5:23:39 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Flake and Murkowski are both up in 2018, and will be primaried by serious challengers.

I can see all of these RINOs, including McCain and Graham, falling on their swords to block the wall. They delight in tweaking conservatives and their agenda. They will be lauded in the MSM for their sacrifices. These are all the second comings of Jim Jeffords, that Rat.

10 posted on 01/06/2017 5:31:09 PM PST by bkopto
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To: SJackson

You were and are the epitome of hard leftist mole Noah.
You tore your mask off.


11 posted on 01/06/2017 5:50:33 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: SJackson

This article is by Noah Rothman in Commentary, supposedly a right leaning publication and an author from the right.

The article contains this quote:

“Democrats minced no words in describing Republicans on the eve of the 2013 shutdown. That was ultimately a public relations disaster for the GOP despite the public’s antipathy toward ObamaCare, which Republicans were seeking to de-fund”

I am just shaking my head. How was that a public relations disaster for the Republicans? They went on to great victory in the 2014 elections, re-taking the Senate. Then an even greater victory in 2016, with Trump winning the Presidency.

The only way the Republican experienced a “public relations disaster” regarding the short lived 2013 shutdown was the media bad mouthed them about it for a few weeks. So what. The media bad mouths the Republicans anyway, all the time.

“Public relations disaster” means nothing in real life. Only results matter. The Republicans did get the election results in 2014 and, lead by Trump, in 2016.

The Washington right wing, writers and elected officials, seem to have completely internalized the directive “can’t get the media angry at us, it will be a public relations disaster.” This way of thinking and behaving has prevented them from performing the tasks the voters expect them to accomplish.

This leads to the importance of Trump. He has not internalized the left wing point of view. He is not afraid of the media’s power. He is focused on results.


12 posted on 01/06/2017 5:50:46 PM PST by jeannineinsd
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To: Disestablishmentarian

The Wall will stand for decades, perhaps centuries.

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Yep, the Great Wall Of China still stands.


13 posted on 01/06/2017 6:07:20 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: SJackson
Hostage takers, arsonists, suicide bombers, saboteurs, anarchists, and “squealing political pigs”; Democrats minced no words in describing Republicans on the eve of the 2013 shutdown.

What will the media say about a Democrat shutdown?

14 posted on 01/06/2017 6:11:51 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: ez

I think that just enables them to build ,but, not to fund that is where the rub is.


15 posted on 01/06/2017 6:47:57 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: SJackson
The Wall will stand for decades, perhaps centuries.

Not if it's an Democrat Amnesty Wall, the kind with steel slats and space in between them. That's the kind of wall currently up along sections of the border.

The other night on the news, some illegals demonstrated for a local Phoenix TV station how easy it is for someone to scale up and over. Took less then five seconds.
16 posted on 01/06/2017 7:00:09 PM PST by righttackle44 (Leave the bodies as a warning--take scalps.)
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To: righttackle44

And when they demonstrated scaling the wall, someone should have demonstrated the proper use of a 50 BMG.


17 posted on 01/06/2017 7:06:46 PM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: jeannineinsd

“He is not afraid of the media’s power”

He is not and he has no reason to fear him because he is a man on a mission and the mission is all about doing the right thing for America. Since it is not “personal” for Trump the old expression “sticks and stones” comes into play.

Trump will succeed because he simply doesn’t care what the press has too say as long as the people are behind him.


18 posted on 01/07/2017 1:51:16 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: SJackson
Thursday evening, I had two college students over at my house for a gaming event--to play Fortress America ironically enough. I was in the role of the Latin American invaders coming for Mexico (prompting me to post on Facebook a picture with the caption: "We don't see no stinking Wall.").

Anyway, the young gent, who is pretty conservative in most things but opposes Trump's Wall, said that "it will never happen." The young lady, a Trump detractor, snorted.

My response was, "Well, don't count on that. Trump keeps on doing things that everyone says can't happen."

Ever since the summer of 2015, I have been forced to adapt my thought patterns about just what is possible for The Donald.

19 posted on 01/07/2017 4:11:08 AM PST by Lysandru
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