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To: freedumb2003; cloudmountain
You took the words out of my mouth. It's no accident that before Trump's victory we had Brexit, EU-skeptical nationalists in Poland and Hungary. Similarly, on the heels of Trump's victory we see the rise of Geert Wilders' fortunes in Holland, Marine Le Pen's in France, etc.

Until recently, the debate between "Left" and "Right" was restricted to two flavors of globalism. The globalist left wanted internationalism with more bureacracy and government regulation. The globalist right wanted internationalism with a little less bureaucratic oversight and regulation. Neither questioned the fundamental assumption that destroying national sovereignty, opening the borders, and outsourcing money and industry were fundamentally good things.

Now, instead of their fake debate over tactics, we have a real debate over the assumptions. That's why so many establishment Republicans covertly (and sometimes not so covertly) supported Hillary, and why European pseudo-conservatives like Merkel will eventually form coalitions with Socialists against rising nationalist parties.

22 posted on 01/06/2017 8:44:31 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck
At least, Geert Wilders visited the middle east: Israel AND neighboring Arab countries. He could NOT have visited the KSA as it's invitation only, but he DID see, I'm sure, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Bahrain, Iran and Iraq.
SO, his opinion IS based on some first-hand information.
27 posted on 01/06/2017 8:50:32 AM PST by cloudmountain
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