Posted on 12/20/2016 10:11:57 AM PST by detective
Who would have thought a butter knife could become the center of a school controversy? Last month, officials at Silver Trail Middle School near Miami, Florida, suspended an 11-year-old honors student for violating a county policy strictly prohibiting weapons on campus. The girls weapon of choice: a butter knife fit for a toddler. To highlight the dangers of having this dull knife on campus, the police noted to state prosecutors that the girl used it to cut a peach. Such is the folly of overcriminalization: Every minor mishap gets crammed into the criminal justice system when it could be easily resolved by other means.
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Virtually everything in a classroom can be wielded as a deadly weapon.
These people are stupid, petty, and intoxicated on their own self importance.
Putting kids through this is like a power trip to them.
Until pissed off parents show up at their homes at three in the morning. With ball bats. And a serious axe to grind.
No. At my daughters school I sure don’t want a kid bringing that to school. It is basically a shiv.
Maybe you live in a nice area with safe schools. In schools with gang fights and kids getting beat up by packs of kids, no thank you.
What is the purpose of bringing that knife to school? I did not read her explanation. And are you telling me her parents did not check her book bag each morning before she goes to school?
No, to answer your question. I am not being sarcastic.
There is no question on this one. Common sense say you don't bring a knife to school. What idiot would bring a knife to school. I'm floored at the reactions on here.
Moreover, she was going to use the knife to spread PEANUT BUTTER - a highly dangerous allergen monitored by the US Government and the FDA!
Did you see the knife?
Have you figured out the context as to why the student brought the type of knife she did, and the intent or purpose it was going to be used for?
Have you ever about the damage adults do to kids when they hyper-overreact to situations that are innocent and not at all wrong? Equating this to be exactly the same as someone who takes a hunting knife to school to deliberately attack someone? That’s what zero tolerance stopthink BS does.
Most people here don’t fall for it. Common sense would have had the teacher after the demonstration say, “Honey, we have an idiot policy here that would get you into trouble for having the knife here, just don’t bring one in again”. And be done with it.
It is long past time to abolish government schools. Privatize the lot, from K to Ph.D. Education is far too important to let government continue wrecking it.
I think you should change your screen name. I work in education and common sense needs to regain control. I have taken pocket knives from students who forgot and came straight to me first off. Did I suspend them? No, because I am not an idiot. Thank you. Oh, and Merry Christmas too. :)
“What is the purpose of bringing that knife to school? I did not read her explanation. And are you telling me her parents did not check her book bag each morning before she goes to school?”
From the article:
the girls parents explained that they gave her a set of utensils made for children to learn how to eat properly.
But despite this educational purpose behind the possession, school officials pounced when the girl brandished the short, dull, rounded utensil, cut a peach in half, and shared it with a hungry friend during lunch time in the school cafeteria.
Common sense says I had a knife at school every day starting in about fourth grade. Nobody cared, most of the time. Sometimes, one of the teachers would need something opened, cut, sliced, whatever ... They knew where to get a knife.
That was back when America was a free country, and freedom was considered common sense.
You, sir, are part of the problem. I proposed the solution previously on this thread.
They will learn a lesson from this...as they should.
I ALWAYS carried a pocket knife to school during my last 2 years in high school. It's the norm, or should be. This isn't an infraction, this is an outrage. The rule is an example of too much statist power.
If I had concerns over shivs at my kid’s school, I wouldn’t be sending them there away from my protection for 8 hours a day, 181 days a year.
I’m not meaning to be snide, as I know everyone’s financial situation is different. I was surprised at how much money we saved when we started homeschooling. There are so many fees for class activities that free education adds up. Being homeschooled also takes fewer outfits (well worn clothing is fine at home-no one makes fun of it) and you don’t need a second pair of tennis shoes for each kid for phy ed. I wish I would have known about the entire series of McGuffey readers available on CD-ROM for $159 when we started homeschooling. That’s the one time total cost for k-12 curriculum for all your children. It’s available at DollarHomeschool.com
I work evenings and weekends so I can be home during the day. My husband quite literally lost his job of twenty years due in large part to our decision to homeschool (he was a public school teacher). My older kids work to help pay for their music lessons, dance classes, etc. Being extremely frugal has been a part of our lives for many years. Most homeschool families I know make a financial sacrifice to do so.
The schools today would have crapped their pants if my buddy brought his revolver in to show the science teacher. Like he did circa 1976. And that was in a Democrat-controlled city.
BFL
I’m floored by your handle.
I thought you were being sarcastic until I scrolled down more and saw that you weren’t. I don’t have words.
Finally, fruit is now safe in our public schools.
= = =
Fruit
Safe (space)
Public School
A tri-fecta in one sentence!
There is no question on this one. Common sense say you don’t bring a knife to school. What idiot would bring a knife to school. I’m floored at the reactions on here.
Back in the 60’s as a Cub Scout and Boy Scout, we wore our uniforms to school on weekly meeting days because we went directly to the meetings right after school.
My uniform had a sheath knife, a pocket knife hanging from a clip, and a hatchet with a covered head on my belt. This was the standard uniform.
Probably half the vehicles in the parking lot had shotguns or rifles in them because we went hunting after school.
And probably 99% of the boys carried pocket knives every day.
But nobody ever got shot or stabbed.
I know this was pretty much the same in the 70’s and 80’s.
So when did this all change?
Did you read that dear snowflake, "gunsequalfreedom"? A 3rd grader transporting a sharpened jack-knife (+ awl + can-opener/screwdriver) ALL DAY at school, and not one teacher or school administrator thought a second thing about it - or about the 20-other similarly dressed and equipped Cub Scouts going to class that day at my school.
This was in Rhode Island in 1966.
Zoom forward ~ 40 years. Both my boys were in high school. Both were Eagle Scouts. Another friend of theirs was also an Eagle Scout. In his car in the parking lot this Eagle Scout friend was reported by some anonymous tipster to Admins for having a paring knife in his car, and he was observed sitting in his car peeling away an apple skin, and eating an apple.
He was a Senior in High School - cops came, he was suspended, and faced the potential of expulsion for being in possession of knife on school property (yes, they had stainless steel knives for use in the cafeteria.).
A special tribunal was held by Administrators in the band room. The tribunal was attended by >50 friends, parents and fellow scouts - all in uniform - giving personal endorsements and testimonies on behalf of this Eagle Scout.
We made them back down, and this Eagle Scout student graduated, and went on to the University of Vermont where he graduated in an IT related field.
Some say "GunsequalFreedom" around here, and that sounds like some big talk alright, but it seems it's all just so much sloganeering when in reality someone sporting the screen name, "gunsequalsfreedom" cowers and squeals at a stupid butter knife.
Fact is Freedom itself informed by a healthy dose of common sense must be revered first -- your weapon is a matter of choice.
FReegards!
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