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Rep. John Conyers: ‘The Electoral College Is Rooted in Slavery’
cnsnews.com ^ | Dec. 7, 2016 | Lauretta Brown

Posted on 12/07/2016 11:52:56 AM PST by PROCON

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To: PROCON
Wrong! Absolutely wrong!

The electoral college had NOTHING to do with counting a states population; that was an entirely different part of the Constitution, Article I Section 2, Clause 3: Apportionment of Representatives and taxes:

"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons*. "

*Slaves.

The Electoral College is spelled out in Article II (Executive) Section 1: President and Vice President, Clause 3: Electors:

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse [sic] by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse [sic] the President. But in chusing [sic] the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse [sic] from them by Ballot the Vice President.

(Note: This procedure was changed by the Twelfth Amendment in 1804.)

Amendment 12 of the Constitution:

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate.

The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.

The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

NOTHING about slaves, directly or indirectly in Article II or the 12 Amendment. PASS THE WORD!

61 posted on 12/07/2016 1:23:45 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

conyers is such an uninformed, race-baiting fool, lunatic and loser. Is his useless wife out of prison as yet?


62 posted on 12/07/2016 1:28:32 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: PROCON
FWIW I've recently posted a series of articles on my RV'ing blog about the election and the Electoral College under the the heading of Greg’s Musings .

The last of which, "Frederick Douglas, The 3/5 Compromise, and Our 'Racist' Constitution" lays out the basis for the 3/5 Compromise and its history.

63 posted on 12/07/2016 1:29:34 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: PROCON

What a sad and hopeless prison of current and historical self delusion so many Black Americans CHOOSE to live in....:(

(Not all)....but most it seems.


64 posted on 12/07/2016 1:33:27 PM PST by RevelationDavid (Jesus First, no matter the cost.)
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To: PROCON

Having lived in Michigan for over 25 years I can say, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that John Conyers’ (and don’t forget his bat-guano crazy wife’s) head is firmly rooted up his @ss! What a jerk!


65 posted on 12/07/2016 1:49:17 PM PST by DonPaulJonesII (The only thing than a democrat is a lousy, dishonest, disloyal scumbag republican.)
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To: PROCON

Old imbecile!

Looking at where the Hitlery votes came from THAT is the fact that should torpedo his contrived remarks.

He, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackass Lee, et al, belong in the Rogues Gallery of Kingfish politicians.


66 posted on 12/07/2016 2:17:52 PM PST by HomerBohn
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To: PROCON

The Electoral College was designed so that no one state would have too much dominance in the nation at the expense of the smaller states. I for one don’t think it’s a bad system. I don’t want Kalifornistan calling the shots in the nation. They’re a rogue state that is totally out of step with the rest of the nation.


67 posted on 12/07/2016 2:42:47 PM PST by No Dems 2016
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To: Alberta's Child

I wish this dude would just cash it in.
He’s about as moronic and senile as they get in congress.


68 posted on 12/07/2016 2:57:49 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: PROCON
feh...
69 posted on 12/07/2016 4:08:12 PM PST by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: PROCON
His congressional district is rooted in election fraud.


70 posted on 12/07/2016 5:10:43 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: PROCON

Another idiot on the Democrat side... slavery? Really, Oliver Ellsworth and Roger Sherman didn’t have slaves, moron!


71 posted on 12/07/2016 7:22:23 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: PROCON

Note to future generations: Never leave your obsolete farm tools lying around.


72 posted on 12/07/2016 7:26:47 PM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!!)
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To: lacrew
Most who bring it up have little understanding of its purpose - and that would include Conyers, a low void of any & all information congressman.

Fixed it. :-) /s

73 posted on 12/07/2016 11:37:52 PM PST by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: PROCON

Sure wasn’t “rooted in slavery” when it worked in Obama’s favor.


74 posted on 12/08/2016 8:01:39 AM PST by Olog-hai
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