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To: OttawaFreeper

What? You don’t remember how demoncrats needed three recounts and mysteriously “found” a final box of uncounted ballots that came from someone’s home to beat Norm Coleman in Minnesota?


87 posted on 12/01/2016 6:52:39 PM PST by Kalam (<: The answer is 42 :>)
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The following are details of the only three elections changed from recounts (Wikipedia):

Al Franken, Minnesota, 2008 “Preliminary reports on election night, November 4, had Coleman ahead by over 700 votes, but the official results certified on November 18, 2008, had Coleman leading by only 215 votes. As the two candidates were separated by less than 0.5 percent, the Secretary of State of Minnesota Mark Ritchie, authorized an automatic recount stipulated in Minnesota election law. In the recount, ballots and certifying materials were examined by hand, and candidates could file challenges to the legality of ballots or materials for inclusion or exclusion with regard to the recount. On January 5, 2009, the Minnesota State Canvassing Board certified the recounted vote totals, with Franken ahead by 225 votes.[60]

On January 6, 2009, Coleman’s campaign filed an election contest, which led to a trial before a three-judge panel.[61] The trial ended on April 7, when the panel ruled that 351 of 387 disputed absentee ballots were incorrectly rejected and ordered them counted. Counting those ballots raised Franken’s lead to 312 votes.”

Thomas Salmon, Vermont 2006-”In the 2006 Vermont Auditor of Accounts election, Salmon challenged Republican incumbent Randolph D. “Randy” Brock. With over 250,000 votes cast, the initial vote tally put Brock ahead by just 137 votes. Salmon requested a recount, and on December 21, 2006, he was declared the winner by a margin of 102 votes. This was one of the closest election victories in Vermont history, and the first time in the state’s history that a statewide election’s initially reported result was overturned by a recount”

Christine Gregoire, Washington gubernatorial race, 2004-

“The initial result, as reported by Secretary of State Sam Reed, showed Dino Rossi with a lead of 261 votes, well within the margin for an automatic machine recount pursuant to Washington state law (less than 0.5% and less than 2,000 votes). After a statewide recount completed on November 24, Rossi again came away with the lead, this time by 42 votes.[9]

After Rossi was certified as the victor on November 29, Washington State Secretary of State said that “a manual recount was almost a certainty.”

King County Council Chairman Larry Phillips was at a Democratic Party office in Seattle on Sunday December 12, reviewing a list of voters whose absentee votes had been rejected due to signature problems, when to his surprise he found his own name listed. Phillips said he was certain he had filled out and signed his ballot correctly, and asked the county election officials to investigate the discrepancy. They discovered that Phillips’ signature had somehow failed to be scanned into the election computer system after he submitted his request for an absentee ballot. Election workers claimed that they had received Phillips’ absentee ballot in the mail, but they could not find his signature in the computer system to compare to the one on the ballot envelope, so they mistakenly rejected the ballot instead of following the standard procedure of checking it against the signature of Phillips’ physical voter registration card that was on file. The discovery prompted King County Director of Elections Dean Logan to order his staff to search the computers to see if any other ballots had been incorrectly rejected.

Logan announced on December 13 that 561 absentee ballots in the county had been wrongly rejected due to an administrative error.[13] The next day, workers retrieving voting machines from precinct storage found an additional 12 ballots, bringing the total to 572 newly discovered ballots. Logan admitted the lost ballots were an oversight on the part of his department, and insisted that the found ballots be counted. On December 15, the King County Canvassing Board voted 2-1 in favor of counting the discovered ballots

The state Democratic party claimed on December 21 that the result of the manual recount, including King County’s votes, placed Gregoire ahead by eight votes across the state. Later, on December 22, the preliminary recount results put Gregoire at a ten-vote lead.”

These three cases share in common among themselves very extremely small margins at the first count, that automatic recounts were done well within the accepted parameters of the election laws governing these three states, that relatively very small numbers of ballots that had been improperly rejected or missed previously were involved in the recounts, and that the end results also involved very small victory margins for Franken, Salmon, and Gregoire. Given all of this, it really is not realistic to compare the current situation with Franken or the two other cases.


96 posted on 12/02/2016 4:11:23 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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