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To: justlurking

The unions have lost membership over their contracts. I know a worker in Indianapolis cannot live on $3 an hour-—but there has to be room for a major compromise.

The unions have blindly followed the Dems for years. NOW—Wisconsin & other states have/are working on breaking up the Teacher’s union & SEIU is in court trouble in many places.

They have been running with the bit in their teeth & Trump will rein them in.

Funny how many current union pension recipients are now getting their pensions cut drastically because their beloved Union didn’t invest the money very well. With the skimming that happens in Unions, I am surprised their cuts are not greater.

Local man was here 10 days ago whining about his years as a body shop man in a union has led to them stating his pension will be cut in half...He tried to convince me that ALL body shops & machine shops were union...I told him no way. Ge worked in the S F Bay area all of his life. He only knows what was going on there.


23 posted on 11/24/2016 9:27:50 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles
I know a worker in Indianapolis cannot live on $3 an hour-—but there has to be room for a major compromise.

I'm not suggesting they should pay $3/hour. But, $25/hour plus benefits typically means the actual cost is around $50/hour (at a 100% burden rate, which is what we used during my days preparing contract bids).

There are tangible benefits to keeping manufacturing in the US. The workforce is generally more literate and more productive. And frankly, the cost of "shrinkage" (a euphemism for "theft") is huge in Mexico. But, those factors aren't large enough to offset such a huge differential.

The unions have to accept they are literally competing with other groups of employees outside the US, and act accordingly. Carrier makes a quality product, but they have to set their prices to compete with other manufacturers -- both comparable and inferior. The employees have to participate in cost control, or they'll be replaced.

If the unions would concentrate on finding to maximize the value of their employees to the company, instead of increasing the cost to the company, manufacturers would be much less likely to seek off-shore alternatives.

27 posted on 11/24/2016 9:56:49 AM PST by justlurking (#TurnOffCNN)
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