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To: Genoa

Apparently what the theatre people hate about Pence is his belief in conversion therapy. While I love Pence, I will agree with them (not on their disgusting display) on that one issue.

Sexual attraction is not something you can stop in your head. What turns a person on is not their conscious doing. And you can’t pray or psych that away.

Of course you can stop acting on it, as all people who are pedophiles should do. If I were a pedophile I would take hormones that would stop my sex drive completely because even fantasizing about harming children is abhorrent. (Except for the fantasizing of what I will do to her if my kid doesn’t learn where to leave her shoes... is that ok? Lol)

I don’t know exactly what Pence believes about gay conversion but I don’t think it works. It probably replaces the attraction with prayer. Maybe that is what happens with nuns and priests, not that I have any knowledge of such things.


263 posted on 11/19/2016 11:56:20 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

I disagree. You can look at the stats to show how once homosexuality became more accepted, the numbers of younger people reporting they are attracted to the same sex has gone up dramatically. That’s how you know it isn’t a trait that a certain number of people are just born with.

I don’t fully understand how fetishes work, but there is no way someone who is attracted to leather or whatever was “born” that way. Some aspects of sexuality are learned behaviors, like Pavlov’s dog. I’m sure every individual is different. But I’m certain that therapy or the right actions can change the sexual orientation of many people if they are willing to change. Just like a smoker or an alcoholic, if you want to quit, you can figure out how to do it, even though it might not be easy. I would expect though that the person would need a sexual partner to work with. I don’t think it could be achieved strictly by talking or all in one’s head.


267 posted on 11/19/2016 12:41:39 PM PST by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: Yaelle

I’ll go out on a limb and say YEEHAW... I didn’t know Pence believed this... he’s 1000% right.

Some folks call it a therapy, but it’s far more accurately characterized as a spiritual study.

The core of such perversion is hate, and a paradoxical being enamored of it. It’s said it’s easier in the case of lesbians, but I am a guy and I only can speak about guy stuff. If I were to groove on poking my pole into some other guy’s posterior... and I asked anybody sane, would I be fair to call that, “LOVE”?

They’d say ridiculous! That’s HATE!

Standard Christian theology is the map out of this predicament. It’s nothing esoteric, nothing that it took Sigmund Freud to smoke opium to realize.

Will you embrace Christ? Will you believe in what He will begin to show you, a new kind of love which in fact is a very old kind, but you had been shutting out of your soul for decades? That’s what is needed, and the bible bears us witness to it.


268 posted on 11/19/2016 12:41:43 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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