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1 posted on 11/16/2016 1:06:27 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 11/16/2016 1:09:34 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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Get email alerts Bond guru Bill Gross says Trump voters will suffer most from election result

Probably be as accurate as his allies predictions about the election.

On the other hand, I have little doubt that some of these people in finance will try to create that very self fulfilling prophecy.

You know, to teach us better than to talk back to them.

3 posted on 11/16/2016 1:10:06 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; BenLurkin; SunkenCiv; Kaslin

Marketwatch is full of Unhappiness!


4 posted on 11/16/2016 1:10:18 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Marketwatch is a far left wing phony site.
Its owned by a huge DNC
donor and its used to peddle his far left agenda .

Believe nothing from this site .
its a joke

5 posted on 11/16/2016 1:10:54 PM PST by ncalburt
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well of course a bonds guy wants a flat stagnate economy so people shelter their incomes. A growing vibrate economy is the worst possible thing for Gross and his ilk of bottom feeders.


6 posted on 11/16/2016 1:12:51 PM PST by MNJohnnie (This revolt is not ending, it is merely beginning.- Pat Caddell)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This “investment advisor” is a GD idiot. He reminds me of the commercials they’ve been running lately where a DJ is posing as an investment advisor.


7 posted on 11/16/2016 1:13:21 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Freedom Trumps Fascism)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Bonds have been artificially inflated for years now, what with all the zero percent interest rates and the Fed refilling an endless punchbowl. Now the party is coming to an end, and everyone is suddenly a scaremonger.

Time to sober up and face reality. Make adjustments as necessary, and your money will be fine.

8 posted on 11/16/2016 1:14:11 PM PST by Deo volente ("Our Independence Day is at hand, and it arrives finally on November 8th." Donald Trump)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gross said he voted for neither Trump nor his vanquished Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.


Coward.


9 posted on 11/16/2016 1:15:35 PM PST by lodi90 (President Trump - Has a nice ring to it!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

ANOTHER false media story...alert!!! alert!!!


10 posted on 11/16/2016 1:15:42 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Fox or an even less pleasant version of the woman from Chicken Run who’ll think nothing of turning all the chickens into pies if it will turn a quick buck?

Honestly, these folks who get so upset about Trump miss the point.

Hillary is not only known to be corrupt but she has both the specific skills and contacts to have hit the ground running in DC.

Trump has to learn even if he is corrupt.

Hillary is in a party known for circling the wagons at the drop of a hat.

Trump is in a party known for eating its own.

Hillary has a compliant media to help hide her misdeeds.

The MSM will watch Trump like a hawk.

Hillary’s source of wealth is corruption and speaking fees.

Trump’s source of wealth is inheritance, talent and effort ... lots and lots of effort.

Hillary is an Alinskyite who is chummy with Muslim Brothethood/OIC.

Trump apparently isn’t a fan of either, also he got to have Bill the Cat’s body in the Bloom County cartoon.

And he’s worse than she is?


12 posted on 11/16/2016 1:18:13 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He claims he is a registered Repubican. Wonder how much he contributed to the GOPe effort to stop Trump. He obviously bet on the wrong horse. Tough.


13 posted on 11/16/2016 1:18:19 PM PST by txrefugee
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Every freeper here has to know that we will have a stock market bubble burst . With all of the basically free money going to banks and a lot it making its way to the stock market in order to prop it up under obamas reign. Now there will be a huge burst within the next two years and the reason will be that the false #’s that have been fed to our nation from the federal reserve and numerous executive agencies will be found to have been false. Of course it will be Trumps fault ...the only saving grace will be that President elect is already aware of this (he mentioned it quite a few times while at rally’s) and will try and get as much economic momentum going before this orchestrated crash occurs. Screw marketwatch....


15 posted on 11/16/2016 1:19:38 PM PST by mythenjoseph (Separation of powers)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

For the most part, IMHO, this has already happened. The bond move over the past ten or so days has been simply epic. I went a little bit long y’day thinking the move had been overdone but I’m not sticking around in that trade.


16 posted on 11/16/2016 1:19:59 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (I had a cool idea for a new tagline and I forgot it!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’ll take the hit to my portfolio if I can save my country, thank you very much.


17 posted on 11/16/2016 1:20:25 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Oh noes.....the concern trolls are concerned


22 posted on 11/16/2016 1:28:32 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Actually, the BOND owners like Gross are the ones being hurt by Trump’s election, not the little guys. Bonds prices tend to fall when the stock market prices rise.

I bet Gross went excessively long on bonds, thinking Hillary was going to win, thereby giving the stock market no reason to rise.


24 posted on 11/16/2016 1:37:18 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Well, there goes the possibility of Gross becoming Treasury Secretary....


26 posted on 11/16/2016 1:40:25 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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Not really Gross was way past his best use by date when he was fired by Pimco.

PIMCO: We had ‘good cause’ to get rid of Gross PIMCO: We had ‘good cause’ to get rid of Gross
Tuesday, 5 Apr 2016 | 1:33 AM ET | 02:32
Pimco has stepped up a legal war of words with its former chief investment officer Bill Gross, saying he could have been fired for abusing his colleagues in the months leading up to his abrupt resignation in 2014.

The fixed income asset management company on Monday filed its response to Mr Gross’s claim that he is owed at least $200m in lost bonuses and compensation.

Pimco failed last month in an attempt to have the lawsuit thrown out, opening up the prospect of a long and potentially embarrassing series of hearings and disclosures about its culture and remuneration.

The company has been working to stem customer outflows since Mr Gross shocked the asset management industry by walking out in September 2014. Mr Gross, meanwhile, has been working to re-establish his reputation as the “bond king” at Janus Capital, a smaller firm.

Gross on profits and pandas Gross on profits and pandas
Wednesday, 30 Mar 2016 | 2:00 PM ET | 04:10
Pimco’s formal response to Mr Gross’s complaint puts him on notice that it plans to expose embarrassing details about what it calls his “self-destructive” final months at the company he helped build over 37 years.

Following the resignation of Pimco’s chief executive, Mohamed El-Erian, in January 2014, and newspaper reports about conflict between the two men, “Mr Gross became consumed . . . with protecting his own public image above all else”, Pimco says in its filing.

“In single-minded pursuit of that objective, he undertook a disruptive and unacceptable course of conduct that included breaking commitments to abide by management decisions, trying to sabotage the careers of the former CEO and others he suspected of disloyalty, and treating his colleagues abusively.”

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/04/pimco-raises-the-heat-in-battle-with-bill-gross.html


30 posted on 11/16/2016 2:05:50 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahead & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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Bill Gross’ Janus bond fund suffers highest monthly outflow in November

12/8/2015, 3:24:44 PM · by sparklite2 · 11 replies
One America News Network ^ | December 8, 2015 | Jennifer Ablan

In November, Soros Fund Management LLC, which billionaire investor George Soros chairs, pulled its roughly $500 million from an account run by Gross at Denver-based Janus Capital Group Inc .

The cash withdrawals are particularly significant for Gross as his Janus Global Unconstrained Bond Fund, which Gross began managing in October 2014, holds more than $700 million of Gross’ personal money. So far this year, the Janus Global Unconstrained Bond Fund is posting negative returns of 2.01 percent and lagging 72 percent of its peer category, according to Morningstar.


31 posted on 11/16/2016 2:08:37 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahead & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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We Are All Going To Die From Inflation Says Bill Gross
2/4/2013, 3:56:29 PM · by lbryce · 16 replies

Points and Figures ^ | February 3, 2013 | Jeff Carter

They say that time is money. What they don’t say is that money may be running out of time. There may be a natural evolution to our fractionally reserved credit system that characterizes modern global finance. Much like the universe, which began with a big bang nearly 14 billion years ago, but is expanding so rapidly that scientists predict it will all end in a “big freeze” trillions of years from now, our current monetary system seems to require perpetual expansion to maintain its existence. And too, the advancing entropy in the physical universe may in fact portend a simila


32 posted on 11/16/2016 2:10:30 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Hey, whining losers,Trump will just go ahead & make things better for us without you!!!!")
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