Trump's plan to bring back coal country places EPA in crosshairs

Washington Examiner ^ | By John Siciliano • 11/14/16 12:01 AMNov. 15, 2016 | John Siciliano

[fireman15]

The Earth has been warming and cooling for 4.3 billion years.

Yes, and these warming and cooling trends have occurred in patterns that appear somewhat predictable because of a correlation with solar activity. The variation in solar activity is not fully understood but there seems to be a correlation between cyclic sunspot activity and worldwide temperature trends.

The only historical correlation between CO2 levels and worldwide temperatures is from ice core samples and proxy data. But this data indicates a lag between rising temperatures and rising CO2 levels. It is theorized that when world wide temperatures rise over a significant period of time it results in rising ocean temperatures which results in large quantities of CO2 dissolved from the atmosphere being released back into the atmosphere.

But this is the realm of geologists and not climatologists. Geologists such as Don J. Easterbrook, PhD have received an incredible amount of negative feedback from those who would like to discredit geological research. What scientists know about Geology makes a mockery of the theory that Man made CO2 emissions have had a meaningful or even measurable impact on the world's climate.

Even if worldwide temperatures were to rise back to levels not seen since the Medieval Warm Period of a couple thousand years ago... this would have mostly beneficial impacts for humans. Unfortunately, historical data indicates that cooling is more likely.

Anyone who looks at a graph of charted cyclic data over time should be able to tell you that what goes up tends to go back down. NASA even under the Obama administration came up with the following chart predicting an upcoming lull in sunspot activity not seen since Galileo first noted sunspots in drawings in 1612 and later proved mathematically that they were actually a solar phenomena.

Counting sun spots gives interesting historical data and an actual correlation with global temperatures. But these days we have instrumentation that can be used to measure various types of solar radiation. And the indications are that actual solar radiation levels are indeed dropping which gives a foreboding predictor of future worldwide temperatures. Don't get rid of your long underwear!

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/08/21/the-north-atlantic-ground-zero-of-global-cooling/

[fireman15]

I am sorry the chart in my previous post was generated using data released by NASA forecasters but was not a chart actually published by NASA. There was no intention to mislead.

[bert]

I've got one on my Van....

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Greenland in the year 987 comes to mind.

[minnesota_bound]

Electric rates are artificially high. Beside liberals hating low prices. The bill is used to help pay pension plans for gov’t workers. 18 cents a kw in much of California.

[minnesota_bound]

#41 Thankfully we are not flatlined!

[BobL]

Yea, the NeverTrumpers were getting me mad. At worst, with Trump, you had a guy that would be flakey, like half of the elected Republicans. At best, if you read his positions and listed to his words, you had a guy that very well may change politics forever in this country - and for the better, much better.

On the other side you didn’t have ‘a continuation of Obama’, not even close, you had someone that was set to ‘complete the revolution’ which, among other things, meant permanently rigging the system so that conservatives would never gain power again, not to mention all of the other horrible things they had in store for us as they took us down to Third World status.

It is hard to forgive them.

[Justa]

"Thankfully we are not flatlined!"

Considering NOAA is over-estimating current sunspots by 40% sunspots should hit zero in 2019.