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1 posted on 11/11/2016 12:17:01 PM PST by tekrat
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Paul Ryan is a LIEbertarian.

I made phone calls for Trump, and talked to seniors whose number one concern was Medicare and Social Security going away. They had no other source of income or healthcare.

The LIEbertarian stance is privatizing Medicare to solve the problem, but you can’t do that for current generations.

The only way to resolve the Medicare imbalance is to have the American economy go full throttle capitalism with pro-growth economic policy and focus all your efforts there.

This country paid for the rebuilding of the rest of the world. It’s enough. They need to start paying it back by investing in America. Because without America, they will slide back into the same communism, fascism, dictatorships, etc.


36 posted on 11/11/2016 12:53:51 PM PST by Read Write Repeat
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Obamacare doesn’t need gutted it needs repealed.. period.

As to privatizing medicare... as someone who works in health care industry, though not as a clinician, I can tell you, there is no easy fix or simple “market solution” to the medical industry.

Medicare is the 900 lb gorilla in the room... blanket privatizing it, will likely lead to things like ITT etc where folks are just taking advantage of naive folks and offering them little in return... and basically Billions will be siphoned off in fraud, largely from some of the most vulnerable in our population.

I know this isn’t what many of the market uber ales folks like to hear, but solving medicare funding and health care costs is a very very complex issue and flippant calls for “let the market handle it” solutions aren’t going to work.

I am not opposed to moving toward private industry involvement in the medicare space, but after watching the disaster that was Obamacare blow up the damn thing, not ready to jump on some flippant, let the market sort it out thing either.

Put some serious work into a well thought out plan and we can talk...


37 posted on 11/11/2016 12:53:56 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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I’m sure Donald has forgotten nothing about who did what during the campaign, but I expect he will keep Ryan around for a while, as a way to weaken the #NeverTrump resolve of sabotage.


38 posted on 11/11/2016 12:53:59 PM PST by lee martell
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Privatize medicare, tri-care and offer the coverage that OPM employees get to the public in general.

If they can provide that coverage to the public in general, it would be a very good system for most and more affordable than most current alternatives.

40 posted on 11/11/2016 12:56:31 PM PST by pfflier
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#DrainTheSwamp that includes you Ryan.


41 posted on 11/11/2016 12:56:32 PM PST by Finatic (Sometimes I think it would be nice to just get it on and get it over with. Once and for all.)
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I don’t want anything from paul ryan...except to see him step down or get kicked out of the leadership position.


42 posted on 11/11/2016 1:01:13 PM PST by novemberslady
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Democrats have to propose entitlement reform. Otherwise it is pissing on the third rail.


45 posted on 11/11/2016 1:03:16 PM PST by BRL
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Paul Ryan didn’t win the Presidency.

Paul Ryan is a weasel who was no help to Trump and is a turncoat. He’ll flee the 1st sign of controversy.


49 posted on 11/11/2016 1:11:25 PM PST by Trumplican
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Take a knee, Paul, you had your chance and you messed up


50 posted on 11/11/2016 1:11:28 PM PST by Steven Tyler
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If initially offered as an alternative to existing Medicare I like the idea. I think that the freemarket plan will likely offer more for less.


54 posted on 11/11/2016 1:18:00 PM PST by McCarthysGhost
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GOP establishment is so worried about cost of social security and Medicare, but has no problem, no concern about cost of endless unnecessary wars


55 posted on 11/11/2016 1:20:26 PM PST by WilliamIII
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whatever Paul Ryan wants is not in the best interest of US citizens, just in the best interest of himself and his buds.


59 posted on 11/11/2016 1:23:42 PM PST by b4me (Idolatry is rampant in thoughts and actions. Choose whom you will serve....)
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Sounds like a plan ... or at least a direction. Make everything service in the country, except the Armed Services, private-pay or private charity.


62 posted on 11/11/2016 1:30:12 PM PST by Tax-chick (Proud to be on the enemies list.)
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Paul Ryan should be gutted


65 posted on 11/11/2016 1:41:08 PM PST by RaginRak
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Paul Ryan should be gutted


66 posted on 11/11/2016 1:41:09 PM PST by RaginRak
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There will be more rationing of Medicare in the near future. It's happening already.

Doctors and hospitals are going to be incentivized based on the number of patients who recovery quickly and go home without additional post-acute care.

Medicare calls this "incentives for quality" but just like in the HMO era, "quality" is spelled C-O-S-T. Those who are too old or have complicating conditions will be steered toward "less invasive" care paths (Percocet and physical therapy instead of hip replacements).

And as payments to providers continue to drop, doctors will decide it's in their best interest to keep cutting back on the number of Medicare patients they see. Hospitals will do the same.

And the great thing from the government's point of view is that all the blame gets put on the doctors and hospitals.

This will happen under a Trump administration. It would have happened under a Clinton, Sanders, O'Malley, Cruz, Bush, Walker, Fiorina, Rubio, or Kasich administration.

The demographics and the ensuing Medicare deficits are that irresistible.

67 posted on 11/11/2016 1:41:36 PM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon
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Medicare already has some privatization with the Medicare Advantage Program in many states.

Obama tried to end Medicare Advantage, but Congress balked.

Medicare Advantage allows clients (patients) to choose private insurance companies who have Medicare-approved MA plans for most of their medical needs. Most MA plans have somewhat better benefits than regular Medicare does.


70 posted on 11/11/2016 1:56:46 PM PST by TomGuy
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We have time to fix health care in the United States... Paul Ryan needs to relax - we don't need to do what democrats did - - rushing headlong into a disaster because we feel we need to hurry.

Let's do it right.

Let the people have input - not just elite insurance companies, elite hospital organizations or elite doctor groups.

NO MORE LEGISLATION BY CORRUPT ELITES WITH DONATIONS IN HAND.

71 posted on 11/11/2016 2:10:30 PM PST by GOPJ (Democrats were played for fools by their own political operatives! That's how they were blindsided)
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How much did Obama steal from Medicare to fund ObamaCare?
Wasn't it something like 700 million to one billion dollars?
72 posted on 11/11/2016 2:15:39 PM PST by StormEye
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Then what is going to happen to the Military’s Tricare Prime and Life? Both are tied to Medicare as secondaries. Just comes out of DOD budget. DOD MANDATED all daily scripts be gotten from a Military base or FRAUD prone Express Scripts, who just dumps your meds in your mail box UNSIGNED for. Rep Fincher heard from me every 3 months about this stupidity. Not all meds are available at smaller bases. We are not talking cheap generics, but $900 for 1 and $1200 for the other retail for 3 months. Both are must have meds.

And what about all that money we already paid into Medicare since we were 16 and are now in our late 60’s and 70’s. GO after the $60 BILLION in FRAUD each year. They can start with my estranged DIL.


78 posted on 11/11/2016 7:54:59 PM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: A politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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