” most climate scientists agree ....”
That’s both a foregone conclusion, and less-than-convincing.
It’s (probably) true that it wasn’t getting warmer, until 1870 (excepting the Little Ice Age) — but, it’s also quite possible that it was warmer than it would have been without agriculture. We simply don’t have a counter-factual for comparison. (Although, it would be very easy to create a computer model to “prove” it.)
If only actual scientists were taking a dispassionate look at this.
“That’s both a foregone conclusion, and less-than-convincing.”
Lol, no argument there! A little Argumentum ad vericundiam on my part!
“It’s (probably) true that it wasn’t getting warmer, until 1870 (excepting the Little Ice Age) — but, it’s also quite possible that it was warmer than it would have been without agriculture. We simply don’t have a counter-factual for comparison. (Although, it would be very easy to create a computer model to “prove” it.)”
Somewhat true. Many scientists say: there wasn’t enough co2 in the atmosphere until 1950 to cause any global warming. (Which is funny because the Earth cooled from 1945-1975.)
And going by the accepted science (which means: Warmist “science”), warming started at the end of the LIA which was before the Industrial Revolution. So many holes in what “most climate scientists say...”
In any case there is an accepted explanation for NH warming for RWP, MWP and the current warming period: they’re Bond/Dansgaard-Oeschger events:
Re circulation of SH heat to the NH every 1350 years +-500 years.