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Major Bust in Transnational IRS Phone Scam
NBC Bay Area ^ | 10/27 | Kevin Nious and Stephen Stock

Posted on 10/27/2016 7:13:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

Sounds more like the feds are having a turf war with these people moving in on their action.


41 posted on 10/27/2016 8:56:25 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: nickcarraway

These ass hats scared my wife half to death. I called them back and told them I would hunt them down if they ever called again. They stopped.

I’ve been doing that with many unsolicited calls stopping just short of making it a threat to do harm.


42 posted on 10/27/2016 8:59:37 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: nickcarraway

From the IRS webpage:

Phone Scams Continue to be a Serious Threat, Remain on IRS “Dirty Dozen” List of Tax Scams for the 2016 Filing Season

https://www.irs.gov/uac/newsroom/phone-scams-continue-to-be-a-serious-threat-remain-on-irs-dirty-dozen-list-of-tax-scams-for-the-2016-filing-season

“If you don’t owe taxes, or have no reason to think that you do:
Do not give out any information. Hang up immediately.

Contact TIGTA to report the call. Use their “IRS Impersonation Scam Reporting” web page. You can also call 800-366-4484.

Report it to the Federal Trade Commission. Use the “FTC Complaint Assistant” on FTC.gov. Please add “IRS Telephone Scam” in the notes.

If you know you owe, or think you may owe tax:
Call the IRS at 800-829-1040. IRS workers can help you.
Stay alert to scams that use the IRS as a lure. Tax scams can happen any time of year, not just at tax time. For more, visit “Tax Scams and Consumer Alerts” on IRS.gov.”


43 posted on 10/27/2016 9:03:48 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: nickcarraway
I had heard about the calls going around our area so I knew it was a matter of time.

When they called it was on our store phone and I told them so and they should call my wife any how since she handles these matters I told them the number to reach her at is eight, six, seven, five, three, zero, nine and ask for Jenny.

44 posted on 10/27/2016 9:16:13 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Liz

I told them once that I am from the FBI and started to ask him questions.
They hung up on me.


45 posted on 10/27/2016 9:26:47 PM PDT by Psycho_Runner (I never voted for change, I prefer folding money.)
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46 posted on 10/27/2016 9:55:34 PM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Kickass Conservative
The first clue is that the Caller says he is from the IRS.

The IRS never says they are the “IRS”, they say they are the Internal Revenue Service.

Some other articles about this have said that the IRS does not call people at all. They send letters.

47 posted on 10/27/2016 9:56:32 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: nickcarraway

Now if they would just go after the Department of US Grants and the Microsoft Tech Support call centers. I like when the fake Microsoft people call me and tell me they noticed a virus on my computer. I start playing with them. They need to be more informed on the tech they are claiming has a virus. One time I played too hard and the guy told me he was going to put a bullet in between my eyes. He sounded from India.


48 posted on 10/27/2016 10:29:06 PM PDT by zaxtres
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To: nickcarraway

Wonderful - Just saw today a strip mall near me has a new business going in with sign they are hiring call center people. I thought it odd in a strip mall since they are usually in office buildings - probably one not on the up and up either.


49 posted on 10/27/2016 10:45:25 PM PDT by b4me (Idolatry is rampant in thoughts and actions. Choose whom you will serve....)
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To: nickcarraway

I so wanted to do a sting on these vultures but a local cop said the jurisdiction was so muddled as to make it next to impossible to do the investigation. That the elderly were most susceptible was a crying shame. I hope they eviscerate those scammers.


50 posted on 10/27/2016 11:41:30 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO!)
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To: wideminded

That is absolutely correct. The IRS does not call - they send letters about your taxes.


51 posted on 10/27/2016 11:45:39 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Mad Dawgg

Good one.


52 posted on 10/27/2016 11:51:50 PM PDT by funfan
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To: ladyjane

sounding dumb, if you’ve figured your taxes that you know what you owe, on what basis do you file for extensions?


53 posted on 10/28/2016 12:02:47 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
if you’ve figured your taxes that you know what you owe, on what basis do you file for extensions?

You can get an automatic extension for 6 months to file your taxes, without needing to provide any reason at all, as long as you pay what you owe by the usual filing time. The extra time to file can sometimes be useful for less than perfectly organized people who need extra time for the paperwork. Also even if you have computed roughly what you will owe, if your taxes are even a little complex, having extra time may allow you to further investigate questions that come up the first time through, for instance to find out if you are actually qualified for additional deductions.

54 posted on 10/28/2016 12:57:00 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Rebelbase

The surprising thing with the 800 callback number is that it’s only good for a day or two. Come back from a trip, go through your messages, decide to have a bit of fun and get some righteous profanity out of your system, and they’ve already changed it.

The second crime here is how easy it is to spoof Caller ID. Shut that down and that would be the end of a lot of this.


55 posted on 10/28/2016 1:29:02 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: wideminded; cherry
wideminded is correct. Some people with complicated tax returns may need the extra time to file for various reasons such as they have not received Schedule K-1’s or Forms 1099 or they may have foreign income or even in some cases have not received a W-2 in time to file or the information on the forms may be incorrect and they have to wait for corrected forms or they may be working overseas or on deployment in the military. Things can also be complicated and an accurate returned filed by a divorce, death of a spouse or illness or a personal disaster like a flood or fire.

I once worked for a company that went out of business – the owner suddenly shut the doors without notice and absconded to parts unknown with all the company assets including our final two pays and I didn’t receive a W-2 from them. Once I realized I wasn’t going to get one, I worked with a family friend who had worked for the IRS and he helped me complete a substitute W-2 based on copies of my pay stubs which fortunately I kept, but it took a while and I filed an extension while things were sorted out.

But even with an extension to file, you still have to pay at least what you estimate is any additional taxes you owe, if any, by April 15th. If you don’t owe any additional taxes, you’re good or if you have overpaid, you still get a refund. If you underestimated the amount owed, and when you finally file you still owe additional taxes, you could still be subject to an underpayment penalty and interest but it would be much less than if you hadn’t paid anything on April 15th and with an extension are not subject to a late filing penalty, and in some cases you can get the IRS to waive the penalty and interest if there is a compelling reason, the additional amount owed is not a lot and you pay any additional taxes when you file.

56 posted on 10/28/2016 2:55:34 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

When I received one of the very early calls over a year ago, I had some tax complexities that had me very concerned. Contacted a tax attorney and he called them back, finally asking where they were located (they were using a phone number that was in the area of a major IRS center). The group that called was very “good” but while he called and I was checking further we both determined it was a scam.

Hanging would be too good for the pain they have caused people.


57 posted on 10/28/2016 3:18:10 AM PDT by LibertyOh
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

We got calls too - I told them to send an official letter to my address and the gal actually asked me what my address was - I told her to look it up.


58 posted on 10/28/2016 3:26:56 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Elderberry; ladyjane
My Dad was a CPA. He told me that he always filed extensions until they ran out. And then he said he wouldn't pay until he received the third angry letter from the IRS.

So how did your dad come out on that? With penalties and interest, he probably ended up paying a whole heck of a lot more than he would have paid had he filed and paid on time. I sure hope he wasn’t advising his clients to do the same. And no offense to you or your father but I’ve dealt with some CPA’s (and some attorneys too) that were, how shall I say - their degree wasn’t worth the paper it was written on.

I only had to do that once. One year, between my wife and myself, we under withheld and didn't have the moola come April. By the time the third angry letter came, I had the money though.

Again, even if you didn’t have all the money to pay what was owed by April 15th, even paying part of it would have reduce the penalty and interested owed. In some cases, paying the IRS via a credit card or via a home equity loan or LOC, depending on the interest rate, can end up being less expensive than paying the IRS penalties and interest.

As long as you file on time, they won't hit you with a penalty. They will charge you with interest until you pay.

No. You are wrong. If you file on time or request an extension, you will not be assessed a late filing penalty but if you owe taxes and do not pay by April 15th, you may be subject to both a late payment penalty if you did not pay at least 90% of what was owed, along with interest.

https://www.irs.gov/uac/extensions-and-payment-options

https://www.irs.gov/uac/newsroom/eight-facts-on-late-filing-and-late-payment-penalties

59 posted on 10/28/2016 3:38:25 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: justlurking

Amen. Too bad the LEO’s didn’t go in hot and heavily armed, and detect some minor “resistance”. I would be angered and upset over that for about, oh, .0001 seconds.


60 posted on 10/28/2016 3:56:46 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Welcome back to Rome - 471 AD)
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