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Final Debate Transcript [CLINTON: ...what economists call middle-out growth]
Newsweek ^ | 10/20/16 | Jack Moore

Posted on 10/22/2016 10:12:24 AM PDT by Son House

CLINTON: So what I am proposing is that we invest from the middle out and the ground up, not the top down.

CLINTON: We’ll have what economists call middle-out growth.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debate; final; presidential; transcript
Clinton's middle-out economic experimentation is what the media should be harping on. First thing there is no evidence middle-out has ever worked, anywhere. No state, no other country. Next, there are fewer Americans in middle class due to this approach by the last President. The media is obviously too wrapped up in diminishing Trump to fact-check middle-out economics.

Why are there no fact-checks? We just got to take Clinton's word because she said it? How many reporters are reporting on the same topic? No one gets out of the box to put the American People first?

Middle-out is just another liberal Utopia. Economist may be able to observe middle-out growth in an economy after it happens, but to say you can grow an economy from the middle-out is experimental and never been proven. The middle class first need jobs to be middle class.

We need massive economic growth. Simply put, the more you take from the private sector the smaller the private sector. Doesn't matter if your Clinton or Obama. Government had record year-over-year revenues to the Treasury with lower rates, and that can be proven. And the best costumer for a small business is a big business. What small business wouldn't want an order from big business?

I suppose I should keep my response short, but I'm afraid after this post middle-out economics won't be discussed before the election. And look at unemployment number this Democrat President gets, as much as they want the unemployment number to reflect a great economy, it's been devastating for many, too many.

I've waited all week for an article, but none really, a couple of old ones from Obama's campaign rhetoric days. So I've had to post debate transcript instead. Clinton wants to impose a Nationalize Utopian economic growth strategy that's never been proven to work and not one report in the news.

What economist say's middle-out growth works? The same economist that says government stimulus will cause more economic growth? When are the media going to challenge any economist to discuss if middle-out growth is an observation or a growth strategy?

You can't predict economic growth just because tax code is more favorable to people in middle income situations. What if, as is now happening, the middle class just keeps getting smaller? How can any Democrat be ahead when their economic ideas are just experimental and never proven to work? Can't Republicans at least win that argument? Oh, the press wouldn't report it if they did...

1 posted on 10/22/2016 10:12:24 AM PDT by Son House
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To: Son House

maybe she’s subconsciously quoting her own doctors


2 posted on 10/22/2016 10:14:16 AM PDT by thoughtomator (This election is a referendum on the Rule of Law)
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To: Son House

It is so hard now to win any argument which appeals to logic or sense or refers to reality in any way. It is all about the “feels” now. Thank you for bringing this to attention. It bears a lot of scrutiny and shame on the so-called analysts for not doing so.


3 posted on 10/22/2016 10:22:53 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: Son House

CLINTON: So what I am proposing is that we invest from the middle out and the ground up, not the top down.

One word. Stimulous. That’s what she’s talking about. After all, it worked so well for Obama.


4 posted on 10/22/2016 10:28:12 AM PDT by sheana
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To: thoughtomator

Massive middle-out growth? Has she been looking in a mirror?


5 posted on 10/22/2016 10:32:11 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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In reading this old article never any evidence, always a poll that says middle-out economics works, and a claim the public agrees with what economist have been saying...Which economist? Someone working for a democrat campaign? (And having a one-side media still failing the American people is no help.)

November 20, 2012
‘Middle-out’ economics trumped ‘trickle-down’ on Nov. 6 - Now policies should reflect that
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-a-budget/268955-middle-out-economics-trumped-trickle-down-on-nov-6-now-polices-should-reflect-that

6 posted on 10/22/2016 10:40:07 AM PDT by Son House (The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009; the Original Legislative Fraud.)
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To: sheana

And how many times did they say tax-cut and they only meant credits? Many. Seems someone else commented about the duplicity of Clinton also using debt and deficit interchangeably.


7 posted on 10/22/2016 10:44:41 AM PDT by Son House (The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009; the Original Legislative Fraud.)
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To: Son House

One second thought, Clinton probably doesn’t know the difference between debt and deficit, as many other Democrats too, they have no real interest in economics, only poll-tested rhetoric.


8 posted on 10/22/2016 10:55:32 AM PDT by Son House (The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009; the Original Legislative Fraud.)
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To: Son House

“And how many times did they say tax-cut and they only meant credits? Many. Seems someone else commented about the duplicity of Clinton also using debt and deficit interchangeably.”

You are correct in all your comments in this thread.

It’s why I despair of political discussions, and why I come to FR for a breath of logical air.

Politicians claim that revoking any tax will “cost the government” so much money “and will therefore lead to a deficit.” Even if the tax is wrong, the government is wrong, and the budget is wrong.

More to your point, anyone who conflates the deficit with the debt, or illegal immigration with legal immigration, should be called out, but when are they, and where, other than on FR and a few conservative columnists — but not journalists?

It’s FRustrating.


9 posted on 10/22/2016 11:33:24 AM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: Son House

>>Simply put, the more you take from the private sector the smaller the private sector

The private sector is what Marx calls the Petit Bourgeoisie, the class traitors who labor yet support capitalism. When Hillary talks of building the middle out, no one should think that it does anything but destroy the private sector middle class. Now, the public sector middle class will thrive under her plan.


10 posted on 10/22/2016 12:05:59 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Son House

“Middle Out” is just lefty jargon pretending to be policy. Very little has been written about it since 2012, and even less done. Yet in 2012 it was heralded as the great new thing that Obama would save us with. So after 8 years of middle class decay under Obama, Hillary thinks more of the same will yield different results?


11 posted on 10/22/2016 1:08:54 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Son House
Middle-out is just another liberal Utopia.


12 posted on 10/22/2016 4:37:26 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Chewbarkah

And I can’t ever recall Bernie Sanders ever saying middle-out economy. Clinton is only using this because it polls nice.


13 posted on 10/23/2016 9:19:06 AM PDT by Son House (The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009; the Original Legislative Fraud.)
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