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To: nathanbedford

“diverted us from dealing with the underlying issue”

I believe it was dealt with. Some chose to accept it. Some chose not to accept it. No self delusion involved here. Just a matter of opinion and personal priorities.


153 posted on 10/19/2016 11:18:36 PM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Helicondelta
Look, it is difficult to argue these matters so long as zot vigilantes remain on the rampage.

However, it should be enough to say that Trump himself never clearly dealt with the issue as confirmed by his tweets about Kelly bleeding and his 3 AM gutter war with a whore who was also Miss Universe.

We did not deal with the issue and thereby helped set Trump up for the fall. If the audio/video tape had come out associated with a Trump owning a different narrative, a man who had not made these tweets, a man whose base had not encouraged him in this regard, a man who had expressed an ounce of contrition, the tape would not have had nearly the devastating impact it carried.

We deluded ourselves that the base was all that mattered, that the woman's vote did not matter, that in any case the woman's vote could be bullied into agreement with us, that our victory is inevitable. This devastating women's issue was telegraphed from the very beginning, as I said, Kelly brought it all out in the first debate, it was mishandled from the beginning and we are now tasting the bitter fruits of our arrogance and self delusion.


156 posted on 10/19/2016 11:35:06 PM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack!Â… Bull Halsey)
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