Posted on 10/15/2016 4:55:05 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
“And the biological father has been found “
And the poor guy paying child support for a child not his, he should sue the DNA father.
There is no penalty for her trampish behavior. . .no disincentive at all.
So the female has no responsibility for her irresponsible behavior?
Git it.
Post 14. . .a winner.
If he hadn’t married her it would be different. Once he married her, her children were his. Societies have an interest in making it hard for a man ro leave a woman with children even if she is unfaithful. This particular aspect is the bedrock concept of marriage and why marriage exists.
They have been divorced for over a decade.
His enslavement is to the state, paying for a child not his.
I find it incredible that any right thinking person could find this situation acceptable.
You ought to be ashamed.
Female infidelity is a ‘bedrock’ of society and marriage. . .to allow females to be a tramp is why we have marriage (monogamy anyone?).
If you say so. . .but not in my world.
Birth control, abortion and no fault divorce are all very popular with the American people. They have damaged marriage and society but people want to fornicate and that's what created a situation like this one not proponents of marriage. That women have fewer consequences for a failed marriage is a mistake on our part. (btw the woman in this story seems to indicate the visitation problem really stems from the daughter not anyone else)
As far as marriage dying, fornication and the belief that it's not destructive has more to do with that. Character matters, virtue matters, ignoring those has consequences.
You last part makes no sense. Recognizing that someone has taken legal responsibility that can't unilaterally be given up isn't the same as calling someone “irresponsible”. The guy is the picture of responsibility.
Yeah that was badly written. Marriage is about making it hard for a man to leave a woman with children. Monogamy is the standard for marriage worldwide but there are two other forms that also work.
If he weren’t married and had been paying child support (I’m against this btw) then there would be an injustice. Because he married her, there isn’t.
Has he been wronged by her infidelity, yes.
Is that cause for divorce? yes.
Does that annul the marriage? no.
I find it too common that people think marriage is about a guy having exclusive sex. Marriage is a societal institution set up to make it hard for a man to leave a woman with children. Marriage is about children and the needs of children.
You could not find 10 men on the planet to agree with that nonsense.
And NONE of them are active on Free Republic.
A very interesting and profound statement...
I know some folks will have to look this word up in the dictionary...
"Courtship" was a means of revealing over time and walking though steps to see who was qualified to be a lifetime partner with you...
The hook up culture destroyed that notion
My bride of 36 years and I shacked up for about six months and realized we were doing it wrong...
We moved apart and I "courted" her for over a year until we were sure we were the ones God wanted to be together for a lifetime...
Yes, that meant no sex...Lots of cold showers...
That year was worth the 36 plus happy and joyful years we have had and will have until death parts
Your argument is that the fact of the marriage should be viewed as if it didn’t exist. I’m conservative and so I won’t ever agree with that. If there aren’t 10 men on FR that hold that view it just means this place isn’t as conservative as it used to be.
That’s a wonderful story. I knew a man (my brother in law who has passed on) who did that. He courted a woman who had teenage daughters. He slept in his car outside their house so they would know he was a Godly man and respected her. At his funeral those kids recounted about how they mistreated him when they were younger but as adults his example was their inspiration. Their tears told me how sincere they were. I’m not sure they ever actually told him that but he must have known.
This is a subject frequently discussed on FR. Lately it has to do with Brit media discussing how women don't have "acceptable" marital prospects. Men aren't growing up, etc. They don't want marriage.
Responsibility without rights is why. This issue is another brick in that wall. Men only have value, it seems, as a potential mate or father, and we'll draft him into the role if necessary...fairness or justice be damned.
Any unmarried guys reading this thread... understand this is the role you will be forced into. Consider getting a vasectomy, and think long and hard about whether marriage makes any sense at all.
No it's not.
My argument is that no man should be required to pay child support to a kid that's not his.
Under any and every circumstance.
No matter what you and the rest of the pussyocracy think of the matter.
Since genetics is ignored, what about the financial responsibility for the children following a divorced woman in a new marriage she may engage in.?
New husband takes over the responsibility.
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Responsibility is only for children born or adopted within a marriage. No court would take parental rights or responsibilities away from the bio father of children just because mom remarries.
I’m late to this post...Varda is either a married woman (not a second wife) or a naive man who has never had the pleasure of experiencing “family” court.
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